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| #1 Post by Chad, on Tue Apr 13 2010 11:37 AM |
| Look at all the undigested food in that 250 pound woman's intestines... That's disgusting. |
| #2 Post by Reesa, on Tue Apr 13 2010 2:9 PM |
| Lol, fat people. They're literally full of shit. |
| #3 Post by abeooth@hotmail.com, on Tue Apr 13 2010 3:7 PM |
| looks like her ankles are about to snap. what are those white things just below the obese woman's brain? if this doesn't motivate you to shed those extra pounds i don't know what will. good gravy. |
| #4 Post by Liz, on Tue Apr 13 2010 4:39 PM |
| that's seriously the most disgusting thing i have ever seen! is it really that hard to take care of yourself?! |
| #5 Post by j, on Tue Apr 13 2010 5:51 PM |
| Jesus, her organs are all bloated. This makes me wanna put down the casadilla I'm eating immediately. ....now I wanna see a scan of, like, a 600 pounder. |
| #6 Post by April, on Tue Apr 13 2010 6:22 PM |
| You hypocritical assholes. Being fat isn't always about neglect. Serious illness can cause weight gain. That weight is hard to remove. I'm 250 pounds. I use to 120 pounds. I did not overeat or sit on my ass. I was on prednisone for Lupus. Weight is now the new joke. What will unimaginative, self-centered twats make fun of next? My weight is not your joke. |
| #7 Post by Bob, on Tue Apr 13 2010 6:35 PM |
| Weight gain occurs when calorie absorbed are greater than calories expended. Sure lots of things can cause those two things to be out of whack...but the majority of the time, it is chronic overeating and sedentary lifestyles. I can guarantee if you go to an all-you-can-eat buffet, you will see more overweight people than you would at the starting gates of a 5k running event. I would be extremely disgusted with myself if I looked like the one on the left, and I'd probably call people on this board unimaginative self-centered twats. |
| #8 Post by ken, on Tue Apr 13 2010 6:37 PM |
| you guys talk about people over weight as if they arent human that their bodys are comprised of the same things as everyone else's. i always wondered how racist people talk now i have a taste reading what is being written here |
| #9 Post by anon, on Tue Apr 13 2010 6:42 PM |
| How does racism have anything to do with this conversation? |
| #10 Post by ken, on Tue Apr 13 2010 6:45 PM |
| you guys look at the over weight person as if shes not human the same as gay basher see gays whites saw blacks or other races, all dehumanizing an individual cause we cant relate |
| #11 Post by beep, on Tue Apr 13 2010 7:2 PM |
| April, number one you clearly don't know what being hypocritical means, number two being obese is unhealthy and more often than not is a lifestyle choice which should be looked down upon. It's like smoking in that most of the time people start their unhealthy habits like being lazy and overeating when they're young and then it's hard to quit when they get older. Sucks but it's going to hurt them in the long run and they should be constantly reminded that they need to change their lifestyles. list of diseases caused by obesity: http://www.articleswave.com/health-articles/diseases-caused-by-obesity.html |
| #12 Post by HateFAT, on Tue Apr 13 2010 7:17 PM |
| OK, Please being fat is your own damn fault. People can't be disgusted by fat? Everyone has a right to like or dislike something. No one here said fat people are not human. They're expressing their disgust of what's deposited in an obese. So before you go blame someone else for you being fat and expect the world to sensitive to your own personal feeling look at what you're putting in your mouth and how much of it. This feel-good attitude that everyone is pretending to put on is getting quite boring. A person can say he/she like the way a thin person looks and everyone is fine. But as soon as some speaks out about fat every fat person feels like they're the center of attention. If you don't like to be the topic of discussion then do something about it. It starts with a diet!!! |
| #13 Post by pablo, on Tue Apr 13 2010 7:28 PM |
| Eww, they're both gross! Especially when you consider they're also both dead. |
| #14 Post by lovingmom, on Tue Apr 13 2010 7:32 PM |
| No, some of you really don't know what you are talking about. It's NOT always a life style choice. All my life I was thin. Then I got pregnant. I started putting on an abnormal amount of weight and couldn't figure out why I was gaining so much. Then after the baby was born, I breast-fed, and even STILL I gained weight. Still could not figure out why. Went to the doctor. He started me on medication for depression. STILL GAINED WEIGHT! Finally, I found out that I had SEVERE HYPO-THYROIDISM. A disease which shut down my metabolism. No matter how little I ate and how much activity was still in my day, I kept gaining. It's not fair, and it is hard. I am losing it now, but I know what people think of me when they look at me. They think I am a fat, lazy, pig. Well guess what! I'm NOT!! |
| #15 Post by Dana, on Tue Apr 13 2010 7:39 PM |
| I think those of you who say that you are disgusted by the fat on a woman's body and yet can't spell quesodilla should probably not be writing on this page. If you are going to hate on someone then at least do it with better spelling. Also, I have found with the most women who are overweight that I know, they are either overweight because they had kids (and I'm sure all you mothers out there know what I'm talking about when I say that getting rid of baby-fat is not a simple task) and are now spending so much time between working and taking care of their children and families that they don't have the time to work out, and plan the meals for their diet, let alone spend some time looking at themselves in the mirror. In the other case I am familiar with, the women who are overweight or obese are that way as a result of genetics (whether that be a naturally a larger person/slow metabolism/genetically inherited disease or even perhaps just a virus/disease). Even if they are not overweight because of giving childbirth, or diseases, or whatever it may be, many women struggle with their weight because they hate their bodies so much that they can't help but eat, and eat more because they are eating, which makes them fat, etc. I'm not saying that what any of you have said is WRONG per-say but that perhaps you should think about the effects of your comments on people. What you are saying could drive someone to being anorexic, and I have met more fucked up, malicious, insecure people who are anorexic and skinny, than fat and miserable. Sure, we should ALWAYS promote healthy lifestyles, working out, watching what you eat and how much, but your negative, degrading, and insensitive (and extremely generic and shallow minded--didn't any of you assholes learn that looks don't mean shit cause an ugly personality is FOREVER), comments are NOT gonna help these girls, or ANYONE for that matter, get any healthier, or "thinner" for that matter. So stop being such assholes just because this woman has the same problem that more and more American's face everyday.....and perhaps offer her a little support in her quest for weight loss. :) KAY THANKS. |
| #16 Post by Rae, on Tue Apr 13 2010 7:42 PM |
| I think that people should be free to live as they want. Obese people know what will happen to them the same as a smoker. Why do they need you to remind them? What isn't right is how horribly they are treated; as sub-human. I know, I've struggled with my weight my whole life. It really isn't fair that the other children and especially adults teased and bullied me everyday of my childhood, to the point that I don't even want to remember ever being a child. What's worse is that they always treat you as if you've never even tried to lose the weight. What most girls end up deciding, it's better to be too thin than fat. Which by the by is way WORSE than being too fat. (Also, you'll get ridiculed that way too! "Why don't you put on some weight?") The way I see it you just can't win, Especially if your female. (I know men get it too but we ALL know not as bad.) |
| #17 Post by lovingmom, on Tue Apr 13 2010 7:46 PM |
| Very well said Dana. It just goes to show that the people with these shallow opinions are just very un-educated, as she can't even spell quesadilla :O |
| #18 Post by HateFAT, on Tue Apr 13 2010 7:57 PM |
| Again, where does all this feel-good we-must-make-sure-our-opinion-doesn't-offend-anyone come from? People were simply disgusted with the scan. Then we have a fat person getting all offended. The another, then excuses for why fat being fat, then more excuses. People need to stop being so damn sensitive about EVERYTHING. The world is NOT a day care teacher. It will not care about your sensitivity. So stop bitching and making excuses. If you want to live a longer healthier life, then start doing something about it rather than stuffing your face because you're "oh so depressed" :`(. Jesus f'kin Christ!! do you need a bed time story to make you feel good too, after your have your chocolate cake? Why am I saying such thing? Because I was fat, I was fat because I ate more than I exercise, yes I said exercise, NOT "do activities". Americans need to stop super size their shit and stop buying stuff that are "On Sale" that are full of HFCS. The choices are clear and they're out there. You can either keep stuffing your face because you think someone cares for your feeling and shield you from the judgments of people then go ahead. I hope they have XXL size coffin for you all. It's going to take more than 6 to lower that casket!! |
| #19 Post by anon, on Tue Apr 13 2010 8:12 PM |
| really?! nothing to comment aside from making fun of someone else spelling? Who is uneducated now? So what you know how to spell a Mexican food dish. You're probably still fat. The person who misspell "QUESADILLAS", yes and not "quesodilla" did not say anything bad about a fat person, he or she was simply was commenting on the shit inside the fat person. Why don't you fat people get together and write a book about to pick apart another person's comment and feel good about it. Oh and have a cookies and milk too, not the low-fat milk but the red milk carton. For dinner, do not forget the QUESADILLAS with a side of whatever fatty shit you'll be eating. |
| #20 Post by beep, on Tue Apr 13 2010 8:15 PM |
| Things you guys need to learn: 1) People are fat due to poor diet and exercise most of the time "Although certain medical disorders can cause obesity, less than 1 percent of all obesity is caused by physical problems. " source:http://www.aacap.org/cs/root/facts_for_families/obesity_in_children_and_teens 2) A paragraph should contain about five to seven sentences 3)The person who wrote "casadilla" didn't say that fat people were gross, he just said that seeing a body scan of a fat person encouraged him to stop eating something that was bad for him, which probably seems a little offensive to some of the more sensitive people reading this |
| #21 Post by Rae, on Tue Apr 13 2010 8:28 PM |
| Dear lord I need to get out of here... the crazies have come to roost. Obesity is really only the symptom of something much worse going on with that individual. (A disorder of the mind or body) They don't need any extra ridicule because at that point you're your own worst critic. Most, if not all, KNOW what will happen to their bodies. So why be cruel? It's a kin to badgering a smoker about smoking and treating them like less than a dog even though they know what will happen. Do they care? Maybe. But why do you? Sensitivity is the basis for civilized society. |
| #22 Post by kurt, on Tue Apr 13 2010 8:48 PM |
| so much the "big boned" argument. ba-ZING! |
| #23 Post by O.E., on Tue Apr 13 2010 9:4 PM |
| wow...I'm really fascinated by this discussion. I just have to ask...for those of you who are commenting on how "disgusting" the scans are or are getting so defensive about people defending "fat people" why does this matter so much? If you aren't overweight...why are you really that concerned with this? What is it that you are taking so personal? I can only assume that at some point you've struggled with your weight/body image/self-perception. If that's the case...where's the empathy? Not sympathy..."poor fat person"...but EMPATHY. I challenge you to look inside yourself and see WHY you feel so strongly about this if, as you claim, you're not overweight (anymore for some). |
| #24 Post by stupidFats, on Tue Apr 13 2010 9:52 PM |
| "...for those of you who are commenting on how "disgusting" the scans are...why are you really that concerned with this?" We don't. We don't give a shit about the fat f*** that ate herself to an early grave. But we also have the right to comment about not liking something just as anyone with the right to comment about how pretty something is. It's an opinion. When that opinion is attacked by "...You hypocritical assholes...unimaginative, self-centered twats" we have the right to say what's on our mind. Last I heard this was a free country with freedom of speech. So along with all the people who say pretty things about fat people, I say fat people are fat because they choose to be fat and that they need to stop being so damn sensitive about everything anyone ever said about fat people. Not every comment is about a specific person, fat person, on this forum. So get over it and get on a diet. |
| #25 Post by esteve1987, on Tue Apr 13 2010 10:32 PM |
| hmmmm... Although some people are just expressing an opinion, the rest are either battling it out for who's right, what's logical, what's fact, or simply looking at the previous posts just to find something or someone to enforce, correct, or contradict. Whatever you post on this or any other, whether it be hateful, helpful, or informative, it all serves its purpose - to get people to think, react and speak. So... ... please don't anything to heart unless it can benefit you. Good Job everyone. ^.^ Whether you realized it or not you all either brought out really good points or shared true experiences that can move or entice whoever sees the photo and reads the comments from this day forth. |
| #26 Post by likecoolfan, on Tue Apr 13 2010 10:53 PM |
| people keep saying that they're dead, i'm pretty sure you can get full body scan while alive...fyi |
| #27 Post by Lauren, on Tue Apr 13 2010 11:39 PM |
| They talk about this on biggest loser, and how when you gain weight, it's not just around your organs but between them, making it hard to breath, making your heart weaker, etc... ever seen a cut of kobe beef? the marbleized fat is basically what happens to us when we get fat. I'm working on losing a bit of weight, 30 lbs to be exact, and yes it's difficult, but I would never say it was anyone's fault but mine. If someone called me fat, I'd respond with "yes, I know I'm overweight, I'm working on it." taking offense to the distaste of something that is in our DNA to be disgusted by is just a product of a personality defect. |
| #28 Post by stacey, on Wed Apr 14 2010 0:5 AM |
| LOL so sad it took 4 posters and 17 posts to spell QUESADILLA correctly. Bet they know what its spelling is when they ordering it off the menu!! Extra sour cream and guacamole plz. And fill up this chip basket MUY PRONTO. |
| #29 Post by Shane, on Wed Apr 14 2010 0:9 AM |
| I just want to say I am educated (A degree in business, but that's neither here nor there.. lovingmom). And that fat, lazy slobs who eat to much and sit around all day watching TV disgust me. The other day I was on the bus. It was raining and down the street I could see a guy running down the road. I thought to myself: man that guy is so gnarly, I bet he's listening to eye of the tiger on his IPod right now. Then, in the seat in front of me, some girl (if I were to guess, oooooh, I would say 230Lbs) said: Why the hell do people run in the rain? What an idiot(note the personal attack fatty made). Well you know what fat girl on the bus? AT LEAST HE *profanity ending in ing* RUNS. The bottom line is... 80% of fatty's (learned this one in Uni) are like that because the are indeed lazy bums who eat too much (and wrong) and do no activity. The bottom line here really is two part in nature. The first; everyone makes fun of everyone. And the second; lazy people suck (and ergo, are often the fat ones) |
| #30 Post by fil, on Wed Apr 14 2010 1:43 AM |
| anon - the red milk carton doesn't have anything to do with anything. http://bigthink.com/ideas/19564 |
| #31 Post by Jess, on Wed Apr 14 2010 1:56 AM |
| I'm not saying that this is the case for everyone but before you start making generalizations realize this: My sister suffers from Hypothyroidism. The thyroid releases hormones that control metabolism. She is 5'0 and currently weighs 105 pounds. Two years ago however, she weighed about 150-160. Completely UNINTENTIONAL and medication is the only thing to correct this. No amount of exercise or eating/dieting can control this. You ignorant fucks. |
| #32 Post by Intrigued, on Wed Apr 14 2010 3:2 AM |
| I have to say this is the most interesting debate I have seen in a long time. The anonymity of the internet allows people to say what they really feel and think. I originally thought these scans were interesting medically. However the debate is the more amazing about the page, and is the most intriguing and interesting thing I have read in a long time. To people opposed to weight gain/obesity: if you were in a room with all of the people that have posted, would you have said the same things? What if you were the 250lb person scanned? (yes I hear what you might say immediately, but for a true moment, picture yourself at that size) How would you react/feel to seeing a picture of yourself at that size, and how would you react/feel to seeing all of the comments posted?(clean answers appreciated) To all those empathetic to/sympathetic of weight gain/obesity: Why do you think people are so extremely opposed to weight gain/obesity? underlying causes? (clean answers appreciated) Also I noted that one person stated "last I heard this was a free country with freedom of speech" Being that this is the world wide web, is all the opinions/comments shared here seen by just those who live in the US or globally? |
| #33 Post by FYI, on Wed Apr 14 2010 3:26 AM |
| I have no stake in the arguments presented here, but here are some things to think about in relation to the comments about obesity as the result of disease. Someone noted that the 250 pound woman has two distinct white areas in her brain compared to the 120 pound woman. It is possible that she has a glandular problem that caused her disease. At the same time, I suppose it is equally possible that these areas were somehow caused by obesity. Ultimately, I think the idea to keep in mind is that these scans do not represent individuals with life stories, they are scans of bodies. It is equally fair for people to be off put by an unhealthy image, regardless of the cause, as it is for people to become defensive when they feel personally attacked, regardless of others' intentions. Would it be possible to acknowledge the fact that obesity is generally unhealthy but, as humans, we need to be respectful and considerate of the conditions others face? Just a thought...do with it what you will. |
| #34 Post by anon, on Wed Apr 14 2010 3:52 AM |
| Thank you FYI for acknowledging the fact that everyone has the right to be disgusted at something they see. If you read this post from to bottom you'll see nobody made any negative comments about any fat person. It is the fat person who spilled the first profanity feeling that everyone is attacking her, who is really self-centered? Oh yeah, and Jess, fuck you and fat sister. Nobody said anything about fatty with decease. Yes, if I were in the same room as any of the fatty who blame other people or reason for them being fat I would say to their face. Fat people make me sick. Sad? depressed? instead of stuffing your face why don't you do something about it? Not all fatty have thyroid bullshit. |
| #35 Post by paka, on Wed Apr 14 2010 4:17 AM |
| this is longest comments ive seen |
| #36 Post by kitty, on Wed Apr 14 2010 10:6 AM |
| The comments have truly been interesting to read, and the photo is astonishing. Clearly it makes you think... I just want to add a tidbit about hypothyroidism. As someone who has suffered with this and has taken medication for years, I know how frustrating it is to gain weight and not know why and not be able to do anything about it. I was active all my life, and at 22, weighed my most at 140 lbs. - even though I was restricting my diet and working out 2 hours a day; one in the morning and one in the evening. I was tired all the time, among other symptoms, and finally got tested by my doctor. The medication helped, but wasn't a cure-all. I continued to work out and eat right, and now am back at a very fit 120 (at 26 years old). I don't think it's right to mock or belittle anyone who is overweight, because we don't know their story, but I also don't think it's right that weight gain and obesity gets blamed or pushed off onto medical issues. A lot can be done by will power, knowing your body, and making a lifestyle change. |
| #37 Post by DBH, on Wed Apr 14 2010 10:11 AM |
| RE: The two distinct white areas near the larger woman's brain. I would guess that they are her eyes. Perhaps she was pre-diabetic and had some buildup of sorbitol. I am not aware of any bilateral glands that would show up on a CT. People with hypothyroidism do struggle with weight gain, but they comprise 4-6% of the obese population. While obesity is unhealthy, and becoming all to common these days, awareness is building, and hopefully people will be motivated to make positive change. The only time it is too late is when you are in the grave! |
| #38 Post by Jon, on Wed Apr 14 2010 10:29 AM |
| Understood that all obesity is not due to laziness or lifestyle choices, but most of it is. All of us are presented with many challenges in life. Those challenges present you with choices. Choices of how you will respond to those challenges. Will you admit defeat and become obese and blame the challenge? Or will you do what is necessary to overcome that challenge, be fit and be happy. You won't get recognized for it, no one will look at you and say wow... you made amazing sacrifices to be fit like some people naturally are, but who gives a crap. You will know how hard it was and it will reward you everyday. Take responsibility for yourself and don't give yourself a free pass because your challenges are harder than someone else. |
| #39 Post by anon, on Wed Apr 14 2010 11:14 AM |
| Here is what I don't get. Why do all of the people here care so much about what obese people do with their lives? I'll tell you right now. It's because they can't stand to see it. It's because media/pop culture has belittled and made fun of every single over weight person on TV that any normal person feels it is acceptable to make fun of an overweight person. People's excuses are "Oh it's unhealthy." Well, to be honest, it's none of anyone's business but the obese person's. Unless you are their doctor, you shouldn't be giving them medical advice. Also, there are healthy obese people, not many, but there are -- no I am not advocating obese people to stay obese fyi. What it boils down to is people are pussies. They can't say what's on their mind so they mask it with crap like "It's unhealthy, you need to lose weight because you'll die." When in reality, they can't stand to look at you because all of their life they have grown up looking at skinny models on TV/magazines. They have been taught that being overweight is a horrible thing and it's okay to make fun of an overweight person because they probably saw their parents do it. Let's skip the BS "oh it's unhealthy" crap. Obese people know it's unhealthy. They know they are obese. Do you honestly believe that you telling them something they have heard a million times is going to magically be the fix they need to help them lose weight? NEWS FLASH: IT ISN'T! What it all boils down to is you can't stand ugly people. That's okay, that's who you are. At least own it. It's ashame too because any self respecting woman/man would never want to be with a guy/girl who can't stand someone based on their appearance. And it is no different than racism, you are just too ignorant to see the difference. You're bigoted towards obese people whether you want to admit it or not. That my friends, makes you someone I would never want to know in real life. - a former "fatty" who lost all of her weight and kept it off for 3 years and counting. |
| #40 Post by Daps, on Wed Apr 14 2010 11:36 AM |
| Ive been one of those that CANT gain weight, I was born with rheumatoid arthritis and when the pain gets to much it effects my jaw therefore cant eat, I do eat soups salads what ever to get my nutrition... on the flip side I HAVE been on prednisone and was on it for 3 yrs straight and yes I got chunky as they said I had chipmunk cheeks but as soon as I was off bam right back to lossin weight again... so yes medical and medicines do play a part in it...BUT ppl can take the initiative to eat healthier in order to help lose the weight while on those meds for me they wanted me to gain the weight so I ate everything, the next time I was on it I was at an idea weight so I did watch what I ate while being on that and did keep my weight right where it was... so its the will power that will decide on how much you gain... oh and when I get turned down by SS but yet ppl who are obese and Im speaking of the ones no medical conditions gets social security because their back hurts has a way of pissin me off being gee my back, legs, feet, all joints hurt and I have 3 types of Arthritis and a muscle disease and the thyroid problem and Im turned down while someone who ate them self into their pain gets social security is just plain wrong...I see ppl take advantage of that a lot... |
| #41 Post by daps, on Wed Apr 14 2010 11:38 AM |
| and PS I had 2 kids so that is not an excuse all can get out there and loose weight after a baby so don't use THAT as an excuse, its pathetic... |
| #42 Post by B, on Wed Apr 14 2010 11:52 AM |
| I think it needs to be made VERY clear whether a person is "disgusted" by fat or by people... people are people, whether they weigh 120, 250 or 600 lbs. They are just as precious and valuable, no matter what the number on the scale says, and to treat them as any less than such is inhumane. What gets a person to such a place is their business, and being judgmental or critical does not help anything... making an overweight or obese person feel as if they're "disgusting," is not effective. Try changing your approach. People are people, and each is worthy of being loved and accepted, whether you like it or not. |
| #43 Post by LD, on Wed Apr 14 2010 12:32 AM |
| Here's the deal. Being overweight is one thing. But it's a ridiculously low percentage of people who are obese for medical conditions. Looking at the body scan, it is easy to infer that this woman is NOT one of those who has a good reason for her issues. Look at all that undigested food! I have a right to think that is disgusting. I will freely admit that I am overweight. But crossing the line into obesity is not an option for me. I am now eating better, I've done research to learn how my body best handles food. 95% of overweight people don't bother. I also freely agree that it is disgusting to be so large, and I don't expect anyone to find me attractive as I am. My mind is gorgeous - my body, not so much. Our society is supposed to be accepting, and we are supposed to act like this epidemic is okay. Well, sorry to tell you - it's not. I have a right to express my opinion. That body scan is disgusting. And if I hear someone complain to me about their weight, I am one of those bitches that will tell them "I don't want to hear it. If you want to weigh less, lose some weight." Being offended by commentary about how gross that body scan is just shows a large insecurity. If you are so large that your scan may look the same, people are going to agree that it's gross. You may be a nice person, but your body and your insides are not. You have no right to expect me to think your lack of control is okay or even acceptable. As for people with medical issues - ok. That's fine. I happen to be one of them. But I am not using my problem as an excuse for my weight. It isn't. Most of them can be treated. Get off your lazy butt and learn how to fix it. Lastly, towards the commentary about prejudice and weight. I do not discriminate against the overweight or obese. I don't make assumptions about their intelligence, capability, or personality. I just find it unattractive. I have that right. It is the same right as someone has to find blue eyes as sexy, a large behind as gorgeous, or tattoos as ugly. I am discriminated against on a daily basis for my appearance (I am heavily tattooed). People make assumptions about me, my personality, even if I am a criminal or not. I expect this. If you are overweight or obese, you should expect others to judge you by it. It may not be "nice" but it is a fact of life. You have a right to be angry about it, but you also need to accept the facts. Responding in such an ignorant manner just strengthens their stereotypes against you. You may want to consider silence as the better part of valor - or at least writing a well-thought out response instead of invective. |
| #44 Post by Getslimfatty, on Wed Apr 14 2010 12:52 AM |
| Listen only 3% of all obesity cases in america are due to a medical reason and cannot be controlled by the individual. So you can make all the excuses and google all the excuses for being fat but when it comes down to it its ur own fault. Where did self responsibility go to in this country? If your fat mayb read up on how to eat right and workout or die young of obesity so i dont have to see ur gross ass. |
| #45 Post by fatchick, on Wed Apr 14 2010 1:28 PM |
| I AM a fat chick..yup..no excuses here, I got pregnant and ate and didn't exercise after I had my son i was 195 pounds and 5"2' but since then I have lost 30 pounds and I keep at it everyday...who doesn't love food right? who loves to exercise...really. Seeing this motivates me even more to lose the weight. Ladies obesity is an epidemic, not just for women but for men as well and sadly now, children. It IS SO HARD to lose the weight, but I just persevere...eventually I will be where I want to be...no excuses, just me, a salad and a treadmill |
| #46 Post by SkyrockingInsurance, on Wed Apr 14 2010 1:36 PM |
| Honestly I think there should be more comments on here about how morbidly obese people affect everyone's lives, not just their own. The PREVENTABLE health disorders brought about by obesity (diabetes, heart disease, etc) end up raising health insurance premiums all because people refuse to take care of themselves. All of us end up having to pay for you eating fast food while your ass grows roots into your couch watching tv. |
| #47 Post by justathought, on Wed Apr 14 2010 1:45 PM |
| just a quick thought... I have read all of the comments so far and they really have sparked debate, which in my opinion is fantastic. The scans show a severely obese woman (250lbs), and i'ld say an "average" woman at 120 lbs. It would be very interesting to show a scan of a moderately overweight woman... say 160-170 lbs (where the majority of the population sits - in regards to weight- at least in Canada). I think that this would add an interesting dynamic because merely showing the two extremes does not allow for a view into what most people's organs and bone structure look like. On another note, speaking from a Canadian perspective (which can also be applied to the states), I live in an overweight nation. It is a SERIOUS problem. It needs to be discussed, and debated. Not all obesity is due to medical conditions- for those of you who it is, yes, I do feel for you. For those of you who it isn't due to medical conditions, loose some weight. I'm not saying this in an ignorant way (that is not the intent), but you will eat yourself into an early grave, and you will pass on unhealthy habits to your children (thereby perpetuating the cycle of obesity). My generation is the first that is predicted not to live longer than their parents... why? it is assumed not due to pollution and other man-made problems, but due to obesity related shortening of life. So, for those of you who will chant over and over, it's not their fault... why haven't previous generations (as a whole), been in this predicament? FOR SHAME |
| #48 Post by Mandy, on Wed Apr 14 2010 3:51 PM |
| The scans make great art. Fascinating. |
| #49 Post by caveat, on Wed Apr 14 2010 5:12 PM |
| just a note for justathought...the two extremes are not the 250 lb person and the 120 lb person. the 120 lb person is actually healthy. the other extreme would be an UNDERWEIGHT person. it's an important distinction that people should realize. people have weight gain and weight loss problems. often, the goal for an overweight person is not actually a healthy weight because it is viewed as "extreme". it's not. its healthy. the same misconception goes for the underweight. a healthy weight is not an extreme, it is a target. that being said, some people are naturally heavier or lighter than others. we shouldn't all shoot for the same weight because we're all built differently. i'm done with my motivational speech now...thank you. |
| #50 Post by Lucy, on Wed Apr 14 2010 5:33 PM |
| Um, perhaps one shouldn't bring reason to this "debate", but I cannot help pointing out that the first scan is disgusting, and that fact has absolutely no bearing on how the poor person got that way. (Those ankles look absolutely painful.) What if these were pics of headshots, and someone's brains strewn over the sidewalk? Would it be any less disgusting if it were murder, instead of suicide? C'mon. Additionally, it's not the guacamole or the sour cream or the whole fat milk causing people to be overweight. It's the tortillas, the chips and the low-fat garbage. And no, exercise won't help. |
| #51 Post by ssyep343, on Wed Apr 14 2010 10:39 PM |
| Hello fellow commentators, I feel as though I have a couple of statement to clear up this silly little argument of ours. I think, in essence, this is what we were all trying to say. Fat, lazy people = disgusting and usually uneducated with a chip on their shoulder they are begging to be knocked off. Fat people who are that way because of a condition (a real condition not depression or imhungryandlazyositis) = I am sorry you have this ailment and if you are embracing it and doing something about it, we applaud you. |
| #52 Post by me, on Thu Apr 15 2010 4:1 AM |
| everyone who commented on this needs to chill the fuck out. im certain that the intention of this post was neither to make fun of fat people nor praise those who are thin, i think the authors simply wanted to inspire everyone to consider their life choices and aspire to the healthiest lifestyle possible. based on the comments already posted, obviously not all obese people are that way due to their lifestyle, and from that we can all LEARN not MOCK. grow up. |
| #53 Post by FatCharley, on Thu Apr 15 2010 8:17 AM |
| Fat is relative. Samoans have benefits within their culture that thin people do not. For example. Strength is relative. Samoan rugby players are awesomely athletic and awesomely strong. We cannot keep judging people on the basis of glossy magazines. |
| #54 Post by quesadilla, on Thu Apr 15 2010 2:16 PM |
| First, to Dana: if you are going to tell someone to check their spelling, first check yours, it's quesadilla. Second, stop fighting you people!! Yes some people are fat due to an illness and yes, some are fat because they are lazy pigs. And yes, it's naturally disgusting because being fat is bad for your health, so our instinct is to not mate with lazy people, or will ill people, just because of laws of evolution. Still, bullshting people about it is just not cool, if you dont like them you can just still live your life and stop being a stupid bully. People wonder why kids keep bullying each other at school, well with parents like these I can see all the kids hating fat people instead of just letting them be,no one is forcing you to love and marry them, so just let them be... and yes I talk about fat people like they're another part of humanity, cause im not fat, so, helloooo i cant be in the group, yes, we are all people. But no, not all of us are fat. Live with it, it just is that way, illness or lazyness. Of course though, lazyness cant deserve the same respect an ill people does. Just be objective, think about it, think about evolution and will to live. |
| #55 Post by Dave, on Thu Apr 15 2010 5:0 PM |
| I'd rather be fat, lazy and stupid than judgmental and mean spirited any day. |
| #56 Post by tamara, on Thu Apr 15 2010 5:51 PM |
| i agree with dave.. you all just just need to shut up and go do something else with your lives... leave everyone to their own business and before you go running your mouth about matters that dont concern you.. pray that you dont get anything that will in turn make people treat you the way you are talking crap about them... remember what goes around comes around.. .life is short and you should be thanking god for your health and body instead of belittling others for their issues. your body is a gift from God... take care of it. thats the most any one of us can do. |
| #57 Post by Dawn, on Thu Apr 15 2010 6:57 PM |
| It's interesting how the debate for health focuses on the overweight side. While obesity certainly has negative health effects, I don't care much to argue the "why" for obesity--compulsive over eating and binge eating disorder are diagnosable eating disorders that are fast on their way to being incorporated into their own category in the DSM, and thus just as valid a medical (psychological) concern as the physiological already mentioned. That being said, you have no reason to believe the 120lbs woman is any healthier. Given the comments and typical attitude I've just observed, she could have been starving herself from an obese woman to what she is now and be suffering significantly more health problems and facing a more certain death than the obese woman. The size of your body says absolutely nothing about your health. Personally speaking, I am a 120lbs woman who appears to be in great shape--I have also suffered kidney failure, bradycardia, and have dangerously low blood pressure. But thanks for assuming I'm the peak of health because I fit into pants under size 8. |
| #58 Post by Haley, on Thu Apr 15 2010 8:52 PM |
| I am 18 years old, 5'3, and 130 pounds. I have just eaten 3 puddings, 2 giant fajitas, a bowl of cereal and 2 slices of peanut butter toast. When I finish posting this, I'm going to go puke it all up, like I have since I was 14. For those of you mocking the left hand picture, those of you who have clearly never struggled with food, congratulations. Try having some sympathy for those of us who do, whether it be anorexia, bulimia, compulsive overeating, EDNOS, etc. This is an individual problem, but it is also a cultural problem. Consider yourselves lucky you have escaped it. Those who give the simple "calories out>calories in= weight loss" formula complete with rolling of eyes are the same people who would tell alcoholics to "just stop drinking". It's just not that easy. |
| #59 Post by squiggy, on Thu Apr 15 2010 8:52 PM |
| If someone doesn't care about being overweight then that's up to them. Tired of the excuses though. Like someone above said ..calories in/calories out. You don't see too many overweight people in pictures of POWs or the concentration camps. Of course there can be extreme examples of some type of disease but more often than not it is too many calories in, not enough out. |
| #60 Post by billindetroit, on Thu Apr 15 2010 8:57 PM |
| The sight of an obese person is about as appealing as the sight of an injured one. It doesn't matter if the injury (weight) is self-inflicted or not ... it's unappealing. I'm taking medication that, as a side effect, slows my metabolism even more than aging would (I'm 58). I fight to keep my weight the same and do the happy dance every time I can shed a pound or two. Yeah ... it's hard to do -- darned near impossible -- but that doesn't change the fact that I will die faster if I don't at least TRY to control my weight (and no, that doesn't include consoling myself with cookies and ANY kind of milk). |
| #61 Post by srsh, on Thu Apr 15 2010 9:19 PM |
| omg, the picture of that severely obese woman is disgusting. It's amazing how some people have so little pride that they let themselves go. Not only is it a disgusting appearance to others, but when this type of obesity also affects lifestyle. Can this big lady even bend down to the floor to tie her own shoes or bathe properly? This big lady can't even fit properly into her seat while riding a bus or airplane or train which is a major inconvenience to whomever is stuck sitting next to her. Of course, her neighboring victim must also suffer from a stench considering someone this big would have trouble washing herself. I see some angry words throughout this page claiming more sensitive words should be used to describe this obese woman but why??? The words might not be said but the thoughts are there in everyone's minds. The first step to losing all this excess fat is to realize there's too much fat. There are a small percentage of obese people which suffer from medical issues but it's getting ridiculous when 100% of obese people are claiming that they fall into this very small percentage of people with thyroid issues. These obese people really need to consider major lifestyle changes to minimize potential medical issues. |
| #62 Post by fog, on Thu Apr 15 2010 10:21 PM |
| The most disgusting thing is seeing people reiterate ignorant comments when better arguments have been made from personal experience and valid information instead of flash judgments. But so goes the herd. |
| #63 Post by TJ, on Thu Apr 15 2010 10:22 PM |
| Funny how so many angry fatties come out of the woodwork. But seriously, yes there are diseases and reasons people can't do much to change their weight. THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T THE MAJORITY. The majority of women over 200lbs and men over 300lbs are there due to terrible eating habits, lack of exercise and lack of self control. Are any of those things good? Is it good to have terrible eating habits, lack of exercise, or lack of self control? No. Those are terrible traits and lead to an extremely unappealing person, inside and out. We have every right to be disgusted. |
| #64 Post by Maya, on Thu Apr 15 2010 11:24 PM |
| Hi all, I'm a 115lb 5'2 female and have quite a slender body in most places. This, however, does not mean that I loathe fat people. Last I checked, the word 'fat' in relation to a person meant 'possessing a substantial amount of adipose tissue.' Never have I seen a definition indicate that the word means: *ugly *useless *revolting *worthy of mockery *shameful A person's self control and personal life are not your issues to play around with and even less so your issues to mock. "We have every right to be disgusted," I have read. I have every right to be disgusted with you, a judgmental and narrow-minded bigot who justifies your loathing of others by hiding within the herd of sheep. I have every right to be disgusted with this society in which people feel entitled to pass judgment over whomever they please, where 'fat' does not mean fat, where people are at war with their bodies and the bodies of anyone else. Please, educate yourselves, and try to think before making rash decisions about a person's life. You have no right. By spreading your hatred of the obese, you are making yourself out to seem exactly like racists, anti-Semites, and homophobes. Love each other for personalities rather than external appearances if you can find that strength within yourself. |
| #65 Post by Erin, on Fri Apr 16 2010 1:30 AM |
| Ok, I'll admit it. I am fat, obese even. That scan could be of me, and no it is not because I have a medical condition. As I read through the comments I just had to laugh at the furor that two medical scans can cause. If someone is disgusted when they look at me that is their problem. But believe me, NO ONE is more disgusted by my appearance than me. However, my MBA and my 60 hr/wk work schedule can attest to the fact that I am neither lazy nor uneducated, and am a productive member of society. Making gross generalizations that all fat people are lazy and uneducated (ssyep343) is like saying all average weight people possess above average intelligence and are hard working. Making generalizations about a group of people is a simple and ignorant solution to a much bigger problem (pardon the pun). So continue with your comments about how much overweight people disgust you for that is your right. It's nothing we "fatties" haven't heard before. |
| #66 Post by hi, on Fri Apr 16 2010 2:46 AM |
| interesting discussion. the fact is, skinny people and fat people have a stake in the overall health of the population. obesity is an epidemic. obesity and diseases related to obesity are raising insurance premiums. fat people are generally less healthy and require more medical care than those that live a more healthy life style. i am a dr, and fat people pay my salary. for every 10 patients i see, 8 are either overweight or obese. less than 1% have some sort of medical condition causing them to gain weight. lifestyle choices are the leading contributors to obesity, saying differently is just inaccurate. if we do end up switching to a government run insurance type thing, and obesity rates continue to climb, do you not think that the government will not start taxing unhealthy foods more in order to save money on health care bills? |
| #67 Post by randomperson, on Fri Apr 16 2010 4:9 AM |
| Comments like what all you people saying how fat people are disgusting, is what drove me to my Eating Disorder when I was 13. I'm now 20 almost 21 with a heart condition, low Potassium, and wrecked digestive system, that I never would have had if people like you would accept people for what they are. Maybe you should think before you say things. Just because you're disgusted by fat, doesn't give you the right to bash every fat person you see and stereotype the reason they are fat. You're truly a shallow, idiot if all you can do with your time is insult someone for being different. |
| #68 Post by Rel, on Fri Apr 16 2010 5:21 AM |
| People need to chill out. I'm overweight (185 down from 230, still dropping), it wasn't entirely my fault (prednisone), it was partially my fault (not paying close enough attention to what I was eating since I couldn't exercise), it's still disgusting. People who are just too lazy or too stupid to either watch what they eat or exercise far outnumber those with a bona fide medical reason for being fat. To "randomperson": Just because you had an eating disorder doesn't make being obese healthy and it doesn't mean that other people shouldn't be allowed to express their disgust at it. Accepting people for what they are doesn't mean thinking it's okay to way several hundred pounds. That's disgusting. And most people who are overweight choose to be through their lifestyle choices. Look at those scans and tell me that woman on the left is healthy or that she would be attractive to you! I don't understand how some of you can liken disliking obese people to being anti-Semetic or racist. When was the last time you heard a Jew say something anti-Semetic? Or a Black person say something hateful about Blacks? Yet you've heard plenty of fat people (me included) talking about how disgusting they find themselves and other fat people. |
| #69 Post by jake, on Fri Apr 16 2010 11:43 AM |
| chill out, if ur fat, you're going to have people being disgusted by you for the one remaining reason. It's disgusting. I'm not saying oh HAHAHA look how gross and fat she is, all I'm saying is there are naive people everywhere and empathy is not the most popular attribute in today's society. This pic should be a representation of the differences inside the body that these two women have due to their weight |
| #70 Post by Marcus, on Fri Apr 16 2010 11:50 AM |
| Fat people are gross as shit |
| #71 Post by Amy, on Fri Apr 16 2010 12:4 AM |
| I am one of the few whose weight problem is brought on by medical issues. I am a paraplegic and it's very difficult to get the proper amount of exercise. I also have a thyroid problem which makes it even more difficult. I DO exercise every single day. I eat a very balanced low calorie diet, but still hold steady at about 140 at 5 feet tall. Regardless, I am happy and actually very healthy. I have regular checkups, and drink plenty of water. Believe it or not, I am generally satisfied with my looks, and I feel good. |
| #72 Post by Fattymcfatterson, on Fri Apr 16 2010 3:14 PM |
| I AM fat because I am lazy and I like food. I am fat, yet I am disgusted by fat people. Go figure! |
| #73 Post by IronMike, on Fri Apr 16 2010 4:49 PM |
| This photo is an incredibly stark comparison of two individuals with a low and a high body fat %. Everybody bashing fat people need to understand that thanks to evolution, the human body is a fat-making machine. Our bodies convert excess starches and sugars into fat, because we can store and metabolize fats and proteins easier. In today's world of super-processed junk foods and soft drinks, anyone can pack on the pounds. Unfortunately, processed foods are typically marketed to lower socioeconomic classes, which, to be frank, don't pay much attention to nutrition. The bottom line is that it's easy to get fat on accident, and some people have a hard time accepting that. On the flip side, absolutely nobody should be defending obesity unless they're planning on hibernating. Our modern lifestyles provide the majority of us with food-on-demand, meaning we don't need the excessive fat to store energy. So today a 'normal' response to fat is that it's unneeded and unsightly, which is only reinforced by the media's shaping of our society to worship slender women and buff men. So nobody is right, and nobody is wrong (except the people who think they're right). Let's see some comments about how cool this shit is, without the grade-school bickering. |
| #74 Post by Penny, on Fri Apr 16 2010 11:9 PM |
| I don't think average to underweight people have a valid position unless they have been overweight. I weighed 125-160 lbs. all my adult life until I was in my mid 40's. That's when a lot of you clueless young people will start seeing changes to your body and health you could never understand until it happens to you. So, stop taking your size and health for granted. Build your healthy habits now, to avoid some of the problems overweight people have and mind your own business. |
| #75 Post by think, on Fri Apr 16 2010 11:42 PM |
| Here is something to think about to all the haters. IF there was a magic pill available that ate away fat. And some people took advantage of this by over eating and being lazy. They would be skinny, but would you still hate them? |
| #76 Post by Annie, on Fri Apr 16 2010 11:50 PM |
| Why is everything an argument these days? I think some people are unnecessarily hateful, however I can surely understand that if you haven't been overweight then you can't really understand what it's like. My own experiences, well I've been overweight since I've been about four years old, and it turned out all this time it's because of a medical issue. So it is quite possible to eat normally, or in my case even less then normal (1200 cal a day for as long as I can remember) and still be overweight... (and I'm vegan, too, so I have a diet far healthier than many) Of course there are many reasons people can become heavy, and one of them is that they have lost control for some reason or another. But this is not much different than the many ways others loose control. Everyone has their vices, unfortunately, and there's no denying that every single human being in this world has them. It is also important to consider that in some cases overeating is actually an eating disorder much in the same way that anorexia is. In fact, symptoms are very similar to addiction. It is a very real, very difficult problem that people face which cannot be boiled down to simply putting down the french fries. And we also must consider the struggle the overweight people endure. I can speak from my own experience that it is extremely painful, that you are certainly not treated as an equal by many. This problem is truly a great source of pain to the many who suffer from it. For these reasons, if not for the fact that every human being is deserving of respect, we should not be so hateful toward one another, especially for something so vein and so personal as another's weight. |
| #77 Post by Annie, on Fri Apr 16 2010 11:57 PM |
| AND ALSO, WE ARE FORGETTING THAT MANY, MANY PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO BUY HEALTHY FOODS. THIS IDEA OF BLAMING THE OVERWEIGHT FOR THEIR ISSUES REALLY, REALLY IGNORES THE FACT THAT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR POPULATION DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTHY FOOD AND MUST RESORT TO ALTERNATIVES. SEE FOOD INC. IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE IT. |
| #78 Post by TheJessicaRabbit, on Sat Apr 17 2010 5:15 AM |
| GROSS!!! All the fatties getting offended need to stop. It's not one else fault you can't put the fork down. Don't want to be called a fattie, then lose some damn weight. I don't care if you've had 1 kid, or ten kids, that's not an excuse to be fat and unhealthy, on the contrary, you should actually be trying harder than the rest of us, so you can teach your children good health habits!!! But if it's easier for you to be an irresponsible parent then,fine!! But note that you wouldn't have gotten so fat if you hadn't used your pregnancy as an excuse to gorge on all kinds of food. You're eating for 2 yes, but not 2 full grown adults!!! You are eating for ONE ADULT and ONE SMALL BABY!!! My sisters both had kids and fit into all their same pre-preg clothes a week after the baby was out...it's not that hard. Why? Most of the weight they gained was the baby and embrionic fluids (or whatever it's called), and breast milk. So using "having kids" is a really poor excuse to be fat. You should be ashamed you're setting such a bad example for your kids...how irresponsible of you if they too become unhealthy and obese from following your horrible example. Yes, buying healthy foods might be more expensive at first, but in the long run you'll save more money from eating less, because when you eat healthy foods, your body doesn't get hungry as often, plus you'll save a ton of money in the long run by not having high medical bills because you are healthy...no emergency bypass surgery or anything like that. And as someone already mentioned before, less than 1% of the fat/obese population actually have a legitimate medical reason for being that way. Eating your sorrows away is your own fault...you need to figure out a more productive way to cope with your problems. You can't blame others for what YOU don't know how to do well. |
| #79 Post by ST, on Sat Apr 17 2010 6:9 AM |
| When you eat, calories are stored first, burned later. So if your fat cells do not release energy, you must simply eat more. So you do not gain weight when you consume more than you expend, you gain weight when your body will not expend what it has stored. This is simple math: Calories in - calories stored = calories burned. |
| #80 Post by ST, on Sat Apr 17 2010 6:16 AM |
| Fat people can't put the fork down because they are hungry. Just like thin people, they eat when they are hungry, and stop when they are full. If you don't believe that, then prove it to yourself: See if you can make yourself fat by eating when you are not hungry. You can't. When fat cells grow THEY MAKE YOU HUNGRY. They take up the energy and don't allow you to burn it. So you must eat more. Don't believe me? Watch this: http://www.dhslides.org/mgr/mgr060509f/f.htm |
| #81 Post by Shutupfatties, on Sat Apr 17 2010 11:9 AM |
| Shut up you fat fatties, go eat some soy. |
| #82 Post by marstar99, on Sat Apr 17 2010 4:40 PM |
| ST, thanks for posting the link to Gary Taubes lecture.. I wound up watching the whole thing! I'm not by any means a science buff, nor am I a calorie counter.. but the facts he presented about obesity existing even in poor countries that don't even have the access to enough food to possibly over-eat was incredible. I look forward to reading his book Good Calories, Bad Calories to find out more of the "inconvenient truths" he has to share. Thanks again! |
| #83 Post by TheJessicaRabbit, on Sat Apr 17 2010 4:40 PM |
| ST...yes, they eat when they are hungry...but it's not so much how often they eat, but the quality of the food they are eating. If these people ate good healthy food, like fruits and veggies, then they get lots of vitamins, minerals, and fiber. When your body gets enough of these things, then it will send hunger signals less frequently. If you eat a lot of bad food, your body sends signals of hunger so very often because it's not getting the nutrients it needs, so even if there is food in the belly, the body will still feel hunger from lack of nutrients. So yes, you have a point, eat more frequently (it's better for the metabolism), but make sure you are getting quality food. If Mother nature intended for us to drink soda, our oceans, lakes and springs would be filled with soda, not water. Candy would grow on trees rather than fruit. Only in America do we consider brats who want to starve on purpose (or overeat on purpose) a disease. Go to a poor African nation...is there anorexia there? Hell no! What little food those people get they actually appreciate...eating disorders are such a bullsh*t disease... "Rich c*nt don't wanna eat, F*ck her. Don't eat, I don't give a sh*t. Like I'm supposed to be concerned about this. 'I DON'T WANNA EAT!!!'...Go f*ck yourself...Why don't you lie don't in front of a railroad train right after you don't eat. What kind of goddam disease is that anyway, 'I don't wanna eat'? How do we come up with this sh*t in this country? Where do we get our values from? Bulimia, there's another All-American disease. This is the only country in the world who could have come up with bulimia. Gotta be the only country where some people are digging in the garbage for a peach pit, other people eat a nice meal and puke it up intentionally..."-George Carlin |
| #84 Post by fattiesindenial, on Sat Apr 17 2010 7:27 PM |
| Hey fatties: Fat people have all kinds of excuses. Some woman will make a baby or two when she's in her twenties or thirties & then become a fat slob for the rest of her life. Then these same women point to the pregnancy which occurred YEARS AGO. This is just one example of how many fatties justify their obesity. If you're obese & able to walk then how about walking or maybe even running instead of watching TV. Here's the secret for everyone ..... [calories in < calories out] This is the simple formula that works for everyone without medical issues!! Stop arguing & justifying how the world owes you an apology or how everyone who sees you as disgusting should hold their tongues and should tip toe around your feelings. |
| #85 Post by Fatties, on Sun Apr 18 2010 4:17 PM |
| I love seeing all the fatties on here try and defend themselves. Go outside and stop sitting on your ass. Instead of bickering on the internet go out for a run. If you cant run (because of your morbid amount of body fat), start small. Try walking out the front door first. The next day try to make it to the street and so on. Being fat is not about being different. Its about not respecting yourself. If you don't respect yourself, why in God's name do you expect others to respect you? |
| #86 Post by Chris, on Sun Apr 18 2010 4:35 PM |
| @ DBH: "RE: The two distinct white areas near the larger woman's brain. I would guess that they are her eyes. Perhaps she was pre-diabetic and had some buildup of sorbitol. I am not aware of any bilateral glands that would show up on a CT." Those are her medial temporal lobes. This isn't a CT scan, because those are black and white. As for the rest of the discussion, it's important for the entire country to care about obesity because it costs the entire country a great deal of money in lost productivity, increased disability, and more disease and morbidity. It's more than just a "personal decision/issue" when it affects half of the country. |
| #87 Post by LOL, on Sun Apr 18 2010 5:8 PM |
| lol @ all the fat people trying to argue why its ok to be fat, or justify their fattiness. any of you trying to make excuses why you're fat need to get off your ass. A very small minority actually have medical issues, the rest of you are just pathetic. do you think we enjoy eating celery rather than a cinnamon roll? of course not, at least not in moderation. it would be fantastic to just be able to eat shit and stay healthy. unfortunately, thats not really possible. some of you need to learn that. |
| #88 Post by UMAD, on Sun Apr 18 2010 5:46 PM |
| Fat people always talk about their inner beauty. MYTH BUSTED. |
| #89 Post by jay, on Sun Apr 18 2010 9:35 PM |
| well, im not fat nor do I dislike fat people. but I will say this: everyone on this comment including myself needs to get a life and go do something else. It is really not a big deal this site......... ! |
| #90 Post by jay, on Sun Apr 18 2010 9:37 PM |
| UM UH, REALLY . UM HELLO? |
| #91 Post by infantasticshape, on Sun Apr 18 2010 11:16 PM |
| This just goes to show that there is no such thing as "inner-beauty" and it's quite obvious that anyone on here who is complaining or being negative probably needs to hit the treadmill. I like comparison between obesity and smoking; the government has mandated that I should not be subjected to second-hand smoke in public areas, so why not pass a law to protect me from having to look at fat people. If you are fat (not simply overweight, I realize there are many different body types), that is gross and you should go for a run. Stop when you are healthy, until then quit bitching about your "thyroid problem". I hate looking a disgusting muffin tops and beer guts. Quit eating manufactured shit and go outside. |
| #92 Post by dave, on Mon Apr 19 2010 9:28 AM |
| I love how all obese people jump on the "thyroid" disease excuse. "No! I'm only fat because I have a health issue, not because I'm a lazy fuck that eats junk..." The truth is, there is a minuscule percentage of the population that truly has some health condition that effects their weight in that way. The vast majority of morbidly obese are that way due to their life choices. That's the hard truth. Yes, some people have a slower metabolism and may have a harder time losing weight, it just means you have to work a little more and watch your diet more carefully. |
| #93 Post by Methuselah, on Mon Apr 19 2010 7:51 PM |
| No one gets out of here alive folks. Pick your poison - case in point for all the judging preeners out there - ever hear of Jim Fixx? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx Pick your parents wisely if you want to be so superior (not that Jim's IQ or lifestyle gave him the years being nattered about). FTR - the brain & bone density of the endomorphic woman suggest she is quite bit older than the mesomorph pictured. That may address a few of the musings. |
| #94 Post by Ashley, on Mon Apr 19 2010 9:8 PM |
| First Things First, One of the major universal laws are that no one should be judging anyone, including their own selves. So regardless of who is fat and who is skinny, either side of you can come to the realization that we are all ONE so hold off on the name calling and judgmental statements and consider the reasons why a person may either be skinny or fat. It doesnt matter anyway. Media and society has forced upon us that we need to look a certain way when we do not. Skinny people can be just as disgusting and unhealthy and malnourished as any "fat" person. The important piece to look at is what you are feeding yourself. Your diet needs, and this goes for everyone on the planet-several servings of organic vegetables and fruits, and healthy servings of grass fed organic small farmed meat, poultry and fresh fish, nuts, seeds, beans, along with healthy fats such as avocados and coconut oil and carbs such as quinoa or brown/wild rice. we NEED to stop consuming WHITE SUGAR. this is probably the most toxic food substance, not to mention addictive like crack or heroin. We need to watch our intake of complex carbs and STAY AWAY FROM GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOODS. Eat organic, raw, whole food products only!!! and you will feeeeeeeel wonderful! |
| #95 Post by Ashley, on Mon Apr 19 2010 9:16 PM |
| oh yeah and... to all those on this site who talked shit...your comments are just a reflection of your own insecurities and those of us with open eyes can see that. Poor you, I hope you get well soon. |
| #96 Post by fattiesindenial, on Mon Apr 19 2010 10:41 PM |
| @ashley .... stop this we are all one nonsense. Don't group me with lazy obese people who would rather watch tv @ eat junk food than eat salad & run treadmill like myself. If Society didn't impose it's will on others then we wouldn't need JAILS!!! That's a good idea, right? Medically & Society says that obesity is nasty & unhealthy & a drain financially from the health system. You can't abandon these fatties even though they can't afford to take care of themselves when the obese diseases kick in. Ppl on this site aren't "talking shit". They're actually looking out for those nasty fatties by pointing it out. What do you want? You want all these fatties surrounded by ppl that look down on them to say nothing. Why not lose all that blubber & have others stop looking down on fatties? |
| #97 Post by TheJessicaRabbit, on Tue Apr 20 2010 5:28 PM |
| Ashley...I agree with fattiesindenial.... Sure we are all one...and that is the point...we are all one...we should all love each other...love each other enough to TELL THE F-ING TRUTH!!! We all have the friend who will tell us anything that will make us feel better, even if it's not what we NEED to hear. Then we all have that really good friend who will be honest with us no matter what. I AM THAT FRIEND...and so are the many people on here. If a doctor had a patient with cancer, do you think he/she would withhold that info from their patient because there might be a chance that it would "hurt the persons feelings", Or, "Cause the person stress and make them sad"? NO! the doctor would tell the truth that way the patient could seek the help and treatment they need. Denying a problem doesn't make it go away...and as for "Loving and accepting people for the way they are"...sure...love someone for their good qualities...but that has nothing to do with their body...I can love and appreciate people for who they are mentally and all that jazz...but people make the mistake of thinking they are their body...your body is just the thing that gets you around in life, but you still need to treat it with respect...you need to love yourself (your true self) enough to love the body/vehicle you are in. If you aren't gonna love yourself enough, someone else has to. If someone you loved was doing heroine or crack or some other such nonsense, you would say something wouldn't you? Wouldn't you care enough about that person's well being enough to try to help them? It's the same thing with obesity...that can cause heart disease, liver disease, high blood pressure...etc...and last time I checked, Heart disease was the number one killer in America, even over cancer... Even being as little as 10 pounds overweight, can put 100 (ONE HUNDRED) pounds of pressure on your knees..that's really bad for the joints...being 25 pounds overweight can actually double, and even triple the risk for some of these diseases as well. So excuse me for loving the human race enough to want the best for them...I think everyone deserves health and happiness...I hope all these unhealthy people realize this soon, and that they deserve better... |
| #98 Post by Kat, on Tue Apr 20 2010 6:57 PM |
| I figure the assholes are adolescent males. Either chronologically or emotionally. Their opinions can be safely ignored as they do not matter. |
| #99 Post by Anonymous, on Wed Apr 21 2010 0:9 AM |
| This is disgusting. It's a lack of self control. To all those saying that's insensitive, put down the fork and take a look at yourself. You don't have to be underweight to be appreciated in society but at least have the decency to respect your body. It makes me sick how weak you are. |
| #100 Post by Shellly, on Wed Apr 21 2010 9:37 AM |
| You're fat, either be proud of your body or stop making excuses because frankly there are none. I don't care what you say about the why you got fat, you always have a choice in this life unless you start making excuses. |
| #101 Post by Louise, on Wed Apr 21 2010 12:16 AM |
| Firstly I am over 300lb, not through over eating as I hardly eat anything and what I do eat is healthy, will give you a typical day's food later. My reason for being overweight is that my Thyroid gland has stopped working, without this you cannot control your weight. My doctor has been trying to get my medication to the right level for the past 5 years without much luck. For those of us who have medical conditions which caused the weight gain and prevents the lose of the weight are upset by being called names like fattie, lazy and pig ect. We would love to be nice and slim and wear nive clothes that don't look like tents. We don't want sympathy but we also do not want to be ridiculed either for something that is out of our control and not of our doing. But for people who eat far to much and eat the wrong food, yes they need to get their act together, but calling them names is not going to help. Educate them in healthy eating and general health of the body, and stop providing cheap crap food. Make healthy food the cheaper food, make it more accessible to the masses. The companies that provide this crap cheap food that is causing so many people to be overweight need to be held accountable, as without their crap food there would only be the healthy choices. The world would be a better place if people helped one another rather than ridiculed. A typical days food for me (and has been for my 34 yours of life after weaning) Morning - 1 piece of fruit Lunch - some sort of mixed salad, no dressing, may have nuts, seeds, boiled egg or fish. 1 piece of fruit Dinner - steamed veg and fish, or jacket potato, no fats added, with tuna fish or low fat cottage cheese These are the type of food that I have always enjoyed since young and still love now. By the way the plate I use is the small side dishes you generally eat sandwiches off, as I only have a small stomach and so do not eat anything but small portions. |
| #102 Post by Anon, on Wed Apr 21 2010 12:30 AM |
| Wow hateFAT. Looks like you've lost the weight and are STILL a miserable person. Good for you. Truly. I'd just like to say that being skinny has nothing to do with health. People that do a lot of cocaine tend to lose a lot of weight, meningitis causes weight loss, PUKING UP YOUR FOOD will do it too. How healthy do any of those options sound? And how bout those skinny folks that live on junk food? I have a very thin friend that won't even touch anything green. I hope all of you "fat is freaking disgusting" people are happy with yourselves because all your doing is perpetuating the hatred you have for your own body. What would happen if you gained a few pounds? You'd hate yourself for it. And how sad is it when all that you are and do comes down to how good or bad the package your wrapped in looks? |
| #103 Post by Mark, on Wed Apr 21 2010 12:41 AM |
| being fat can be caused by health issues or medications just as much as diet or lifestyle. And to those that assume people that are overweight are just fat, lazy pigs..it is possible that a special diet that they may not be able to afford might help them lose a small amount of weight..but hey, there is no known cure for the obvious "stupidity gene" you carry |
| #104 Post by Louise, on Wed Apr 21 2010 12:46 AM |
| Should of said in last post, that until my Thyroid stopped working I was a full time fitness instructer in our local fitness first gym. |
| #105 Post by Louise, on Wed Apr 21 2010 12:48 AM |
| Thank you Mark, at least some people on hear understand that our weight is not always under our own control, how I wish it was. |
| #106 Post by speter, on Wed Apr 21 2010 1:50 PM |
| As Orson Wells said about some people being fat but can change it and some thin people are ugly forever!!! |
| #107 Post by katie, on Wed Apr 21 2010 8:36 PM |
| So, I'm an xray tech and the reason the obese girl has the "white things" under her brain is because they are in everyone's brains, the scans are not the same slice and therefor aren't shown yet in the skinnier girls scan. Second of all the black in her bowels is air not food, so the skinnier girl has more food in her body. Third of all, all my skinny friends including my husband eat the worst crap in the world and their metabolism can just burn it up. Me, I have to watch what I eat every day or I gain. It's the truth. Everyone is different and all those skinny fat-haters out there probably eats just as much crap and just as fat people they just are the lucky ones that don't have to watch what they eat. Hopefully that metabolism doesn't run out because karma is a bitch. |
| #108 Post by cheri, on Thu Apr 22 2010 1:39 AM |
| I bet everyone who has said something horrible about an overweight person has at least one person in their life that is overweight. It could be because of health reasons or it could be because they are not eating right. Either way I would hate for them to read what their spouse, mother, father, sister, brother or friend said about "them". How horrible would they feel. How betrayed they would feel. I do believe that the comparrison scans is a wake up call for a lot of people that are overweight but it should be out of love and concern that people bring up anyones weight. Not while laughing and certainly not with some of the ugly comments that people have said. I hope you will think about that next time. And if you still don't think your words will sting your loved ones who are also overweight.. I dare you to have them look at the scans and read what you had said. I am betting you will pass and not do it.. because you know how hurtful your words would be to them. Please know how hurtful they were to complete strangers and treat others with respect and compassion in the future. Take care. cheri |
| #109 Post by Michigander, on Thu Apr 22 2010 12:37 AM |
| Some people are overweight from a combination of laziness and overeating, or otherwise some lack of control. Some are overweight from hypothyroidism and other health problems not themselves caused by obesity. Others are obese in part due to poverty. We have no indication of the socioeconomic status of either of these women, any more than we do of any genetic predisposition to obesity they might have had. Maybe money had nothing to do with it, maybe it did. But either way--there are many, many Americans, despite the country's affluence who simply don't have the means to get healthy food. Look sometimes at the correlation between the poorest states and cities in the country and those with the highest obesity rates. The reasons for that are simple enough--highly subsidized crops are cheaper to purchase and process, and therefore can be sold for less--and these subsidized crops are most commonly things like corn and beef. And it is this inexpensive but unhealthy food that is most often stocked in the "corner stores" upon which so many people depend due to their poverty. Large grocery stores with a wide variety of choices are rare in impoverished neighborhoods, and those living in these neighborhoods often lack the means to get to the suburbs or even more affluent areas of the same city to shop. Moreover, the stores in those areas have prices based upon the incomes of those living in their target area, not the rougher parts of town--and food stamps don't always help much. Many food stamps don't cover organic products, and of course favor the products heavy on the subsidized crops. Because of subsidies, most mainstream food products contain corn or soybeans, even those that are not clearly marked as such. High fructose corn syrup is more common than sugar in many products, and there is some evidence that it is far harder for the body to metabolism corn syrup than sugar. To the poster who suggested that obesity could be solved by avoiding genetically modified foods and selecting grass-fed meats, organic vegetables, and so on--that's a lovely idea, and would certainly go far to solve many of the health problems rampant today, but unfortunately is impractical for many people. Such products tend to be more expensive, and available only in more specialized stores, or else in stores large enough to stock such a variety. This puts them beyond the reach of many of the people who most need access to a healthy diet, and yet are unable to eat one themselves or provide one to their families. Moreover, not all genetically modified food is marked as such--and the majority of readily available products do contain genetically modified plant material. Unemployment is rampant, and people look quickly for cheaper solutions to the necessities of life when they are having trouble making ends meet. The cheapest foods are often those that, when used as a staple in the diet, lead to obesity. So both the unemployed and the working poor, in many regions across the country but particularly in the states hit hardest by economic problems, buy what they can most easily afford--and in so doing, lead themselves to obesity and poor health. That poor health becomes expensive, and eventually the cycle just continues itself. Is it the individual's fault that he or she is fat? Often, yes. But in some cases, not to remove the fault of the individual, it is also due in part to factors mostly beyond their immediate control. For some people, it's just not as simple as choosing between the fries and the veggies. |
| #110 Post by Colleen, on Thu Apr 22 2010 1:36 PM |
| To the people getting upset about all the negative criticism please note that these scans were posted side by side for the purpose of showing how unhealthy obese people really are. Perhaps instead of getting offended by the fact that you are fat and someone comments on it, take a look at what the inside of your body looks like and realize that what they say is true. The name calling aside, many of the comments are not meant to insult but are FACTS. Obesity is an epidemic not because of the small percentage of people who are medically predisposed, but because people eat more and exercise less. Instead of wasting your time making excuses defending your weight, be motivated by how your body looks on the inside and start getting healthy. |
| #111 Post by Vicki, on Thu Apr 22 2010 4:2 PM |
| Colleen...... thank you for your comment.... you are right.... this should be a wake up call. I am a 220 lb women in my 50's and while I dont look gross.... health wise I need this wake up call. Changing your lifestyle is hard and real hard for an older person.... BUT... it needs done and people are right (for most of ue) it has all been about the decisions we make and need to change. |
| #112 Post by TheJessicaRabbit, on Thu Apr 22 2010 6:6 PM |
| I understand that some people are poor/unemployed...in fact, I am one of those people now...yeah...the economy sucks, I don't want that to discourage anyone from looking for work though... Anyway, Yes, I am unemployed...so I have a little money every month that I can work with, but I still manage to eat healthy and exercise...there may be a few days a month, where I have to eat cheaper food and yes, it's not nearly as healthy as the other stuff, but on those days I EXERCISE MORE. Heck, if you're excuse for being unhealthy is that you're unemployed/broke, I'm gonna tell you to get off your lazy ass...If you're not working, that's not an excuse so sit in front of the TV...go for a long walk and work off that big mac...Pay attention to those weekly circulars you get in the mail from the variety of grocery stores...I know I get 4 or more of them every week in my mail box...and I live in a "ghetto" neighborhood if you wanna call it that. Sometimes stores will have bags of fruit for only a few dollars. In season veggies are usually on sale frequently, as are certain cuts of meat. IF you buy in bulk, you can save more money, and freeze portions for future use. It takes a little planning, but YOU are totally worth it. Also, whole wheat pasta is just as cheap as the regular kind, usually only a couple of dollars per box. Also, paying attention to portion sizes is key. Most people OVERESTIMATE what a real portion size is. If you stick to the right portions, you'll eat less, thus stretching how far your food goes. |
| #113 Post by morris, on Fri Apr 23 2010 0:22 AM |
| I'm wondering why people are reacting w/ such anger to this. 120 lbs is smaller than MOST women, while 250 lbs is not outlandish for most men. Sexism + fatphobia = a world of hate. |
| #114 Post by Nate, on Fri Apr 23 2010 11:34 AM |
| The comments on this picture have been far more interesting then the picture itself ironically. Hearing me think of the various arguments has made me think of one of my own. Each of us has our own responsibilities. Some have children, jobs, etc. One responsibility that we often neglect is our responsibility to future generations and those around us. We each have an enormous influence on those around us (see the book "Connected for more about that). We affect people's religious beliefs, what they find to be cool, and even their weight. Yes their weight. What motivates a person to allow themselves to become overweight? For some people it is indeed a medical condition (to those of you who are fighting it, I applaud your efforts and successes). But for most Americans it is because they don't care enough to stop it. Part of this is because they are lazy. One factor that is overlooked is acceptance. It's okay to be fat in America. While the media does exemplify skinniness, it doesn't really have an affect on most people. What does affect most people are the people that they generally care about (friends, family, etc.). As these people put on weight, it becomes more and more acceptable to the original person because it has become "the norm". So why does this matter? I could truly care less what your weight is, it's your decision. It matters because what you do to your body affects others. What will you teach your children? What habits will they learn? The same goes for those who look up to you. I am not asking all people to ge down to an "ideal weight". Not everyone is able to lose weight and that is fine. However, if your weight is indeed a problem, you need to at the very least recognize it. Confront it, don't hide. You might find fat beautiful, again this is fine. But you need to be aware of the risks involved with this and share them with others. (I am not going to argue the fact that too much body fat causes medical issues) Give those around you the information needed to make their own decisions (I am referring specifically to children needing information but sometimes adults need it too). Consider your ifluence, use it wisely. |
| #115 Post by shannon, on Fri Apr 23 2010 5:58 PM |
| wow.. I seriously hope that none of you people who are so callous toward overweight people have children. I was always the kid that took up for the overweight kids that every other kid would tease mercilessly at school. I always wondered how they could be so heartless but I guess now I know. They have parents like the people who say such hateful things here. Have some respect for your fellow humans. I'm very thankful that my parents instilled in me, "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all." If your opinion is cruel than you should keep it to yourself. Bottom line. People with weight problems have enough pain. They are not happy being overweight and cruelty will not help them at all. |
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| #117 Post by Awesomehead, on Sun Apr 25 2010 7:18 PM |
| Hey Rae! Hate smokers too, do ya?! I wish you were here right now so I could blow some in your face. If I ever getting a smoking related disease, I'm glad your hard-earned tax money will help pay for my treatment. Good day sir. |
| #118 Post by Jeff, on Mon Apr 26 2010 3:56 PM |
| There is a very small percentage of people that gain wait easier due to some medical reason. However, like has been said multiple times already, for most it comes down to calories taken in vs. calories burned. Too many overweight people try to use the under-active thyroid excuse. Their thyroid probably is under-active, but it's their own fault. If all you do is sit around all day everything related to your metabolism is going to slow down. Just dieting doesn't cut it in most cases. If all you do is cut back on calories your body goes into starvation mode and slows your metabolism even more, burning even fewer calories. You have to move to burn calories. If you really want to lose weight start doing something to build muscle. It takes calories to maintain muscle, so you're going to burn more when you aren't doing something. There is no magic pill that's going to fix it forever. You can take a drug or have a surgery to initially get rid of weight, but if you don't change your lifestyle you'll end up packing all the weight back on. |
| #119 Post by fatties_are_lazies, on Tue Apr 27 2010 3:47 PM |
| Well said Jeff. If you put 100 fatties in a room, then all 99 of them are going to claim they've got thyroid issues. This is total nonsense!! Fatties must think that because we lack fat ... we also lack common sense & will believe their stories. There's no way all fat people have thyroid issues, this is a very small percentage of obese ppl. If ur fat, do some EXERCISE!!! Stop watching TV & stop eating junk food. Stop pursuing these leisure activities that involve you sitting on ur fat butt all day. Start to play a sport or train yourself for a marathon. Of course, it'll take a very, very long time to actually accomplish these things but at least you're spending your free time on something constructive. Fatties not only have terrible physical condition but also weak mentally. |
| #120 Post by Ann, on Thu Apr 29 2010 5:50 PM |
| I for one, am sure anything I say will be jumped on, one way or the other! However have chose to voice my "opinion" I am 34 yrs old, married 16 yrs with 2 children. NEVER had a weight issue until the last 10 years of my life. I agree with some of the posts that say "health issue" has made me obese, and I do feel for those who are dealing with weight because of that. I looked at the scan and my first reaction was "YUCK" not at the woman herself, but what her poor body is going through just to function normally, I would never call anyone a "fatty" or "fat". I have allowed myself to get out of control over the years, and have made poor eating choices, as well as have one family member after another die which has made me eat for comfort, but I am here to say, I am obese damnit, and its my OWN FAULT!!! TODAY is the day to get our asses up and take the kids for a walk, skip the drive up and make a healthy choice for our body, for the example to our children and for hell's sake for out LIFE!!!!! I am doing this, and support is a huge factor in the process of re-training our minds and our lifestyle. But I am still a mommy, a damn good wife and a friend most would love to have, so help with good habit advice as much as the bitching will ya!! |
| #121 Post by Confused, on Thu Apr 29 2010 11:31 PM |
| Excuse me but, since when does being fat require an "excuse"? |
| #122 Post by Dina, on Sat May 1 2010 10:52 PM |
| Having coached numerous people from a life of obesity towards their true selves including myself having released over 115lbs. I know what it takes on multiple levels to release the weight. There are physical issues related to weight gain that can be treated and are often the result of nutrient deficiencies. There are also often underlying emotional protection reasons why someone may hold onto additional weight. Addressing the underlying physical, and emotional issues that may be keeping the weight on is key. Such as the thyroid issues, candida, food allergies, hormonal issues, genetic, neuro-chemical and biochemical imbalances, blood sugar imbalance and emotional blocks. When these underlying issues are addressed and cleared it will allow the person to lose weight with much more ease. A lot of the issue comes down sometimes to an imbalance in the gut flora. For instance there was a research study that was conducted where they had a obese mouse and a thin mouse and literally injected the gut flora from the obese mouse into the thin mouse and within a short time the thin mouse became obese. Pretty trippy I know..but true..anyway I have a releasing weight coaching program that focuses on real solutions..there are no excuses but there are always good reasons..and to invalidate someone's experience with unjustified cruelties is not right. Have compassion as you have not lived anothers life and do not know what people may have gone through to lead them to create their own self-protection. Your judgments help no one. Creating health, wellness and wholeness is what its about. Self-love is key! My two-cents. Cheers! Chef Dina Knight http://www greenivore.net http://www.dinaknight.com |
| #123 Post by stfuidiots, on Sun May 2 2010 8:33 PM |
| stfu idiots LOL!!! |
| #124 Post by Jen, on Sun May 2 2010 8:53 PM |
| I know your comment is from April, but Dana, if you're going to correct someone's spelling, at least do it right! It's "quesadilla" not "quesodilla." Also, you spelled "per se" wrong...it's not "per-say." Per se is a latin phrase, try to use it correctly! Thanks! |
| #125 Post by Jamie, on Mon May 3 2010 3:4 PM |
| Is it any wonder why people like me end up with an eating disorder? I've always had some form of eating problem. I was slightly over weight and due to comments like some of these, is it any wonder how I became bulimic and went the opposite direction? It doesn't matter why or how a person became and continue to struggle with their self image and weight, whether up or down. All you have to do is read these comments or others from different sites. Who cares if you are standing up or standing against whatever side. People with eating problems are either like that due to mental/emotional/physical problems one way or the other. It doesn't matter the reasons... There is a very serious epidemic going on in society today. Is there really any wonder why? I now struggle to keep from starving myself and doing everything I can possibly think of to stay underweight. I'd rather die than become even SLIGHTLY too pudgy. Granted, there are a lot more reasons than just society that cause and fuel an eating disorder but no matter the reason... There is only one way to stop it. It starts with you. |
| #126 Post by BK, on Tue May 4 2010 9:9 PM |
| With all respect to everyone who has posted here, I love the comments on this page. I like to forward it to people I know as an example of evidence that we are NEVER going to get along with each other as a species. Thus, goes my argument, we will inevitably require a world government, or second coming, or something equally impressive to designate an official referee. Just wanted to point that out... Okay. Back to slagging each other and... GO! |
| #127 Post by Nappa, on Wed May 5 2010 10:4 AM |
| Obviously none of you know what you are talking about. Many of you describe each other as "assholes" without thinking of the implication of such a derogatory term. Just because someone happens to be the anus of the human anatomy does not mean that they deserve to be subject to the ridicule of every person who thinks they are better than those who are anally impaired. Now I know how it must have felt for Jewish people during WWII (in before Godwin's Law). Just because someone produces shit, has no worth to society and doesn't accept responsibility for their poor lifestyle choice, doesn't mean they deserve to be insulted and abused. p.s. don't comment on my grammar or spelling, its the fucking internet |
| #128 Post by THEJessicaRabbit, on Wed May 5 2010 6:26 PM |
| @Jamie You posted the following: "Is it any wonder why people like me end up with an eating disorder? I've always had some form of eating problem. I was slightly over weight and due to comments like some of these is it any wonder how I became bulimic and went the opposite direction?" My Response: You became bulimic because YOU chose to throw-up a perfectly good meal rather than eat healthy and exercise to stay slim. Just because you use other people's "words" as a scapegoat for your "disease" doesn't mean it's anyone else's fault/doing. YOUR LIFE IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. So if you make a choice, that's on you. It doesn't matter what anyone else says. YOU CHOOSE HOW YOU REACT AT ANY GIVEN TIME. I bet when you choose to take responsibility, and stop blaming others, your problems will work themselves out. OF course you know this already according to what you said,"There is only one way to stop it. It starts with you." @ BK ha ha, you do have a point :) @ Nappa You Said: "Just because someone produces shit, has no worth to society and doesn't accept responsibility for their poor lifestyle choice, doesn't mean they deserve to be insulted and abused." True, they should not be "abused". I myself would never physically hurt someone just because they are unhealthy/obese...unless they were trying to hurt me first...but then again I'd just run because there's no way they'd be able to keep up...anyway, as far as the insults go. Sometimes the TRUTH IS THE TRUTH and not an insult, it's actually a form of tough love and plenty of people need it whether the want to admit it or not. Even if it were an insult, I live in a country where I (as well as many others) are free to express our 1st Amendment Right to Freedom of Speech. If you don't like it, you are still free to disagree :) |
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| #130 Post by fatguy, on Wed May 5 2010 8:35 PM |
| eat more complex carbs, high protein, and less fats and sugars. salt is bad too. expend more energy than you take in. focus on the distant future and dont give up. simple way to happiness. this dichotomy is designed to show one what is healthy and what isnt. this is not about fat people not being people. if you feel that way then it is on you and no one else. own your statements, nobody can MAKE you feel any way period. if you dont want to be fat, then change. the answer is so simple it can be hard to understand. have fun and be happy! |
| #131 Post by keith, on Wed May 5 2010 10:44 PM |
| Im fat and if you look in the bible obesity is considered a sin even though you may be taking pills or your disease causes you to gain weight you should still do something to get it off and everyone who looks at this can see the 250 lb woman in the picture was obviously overeating look at how much food is in the stomach and intestines obviously more than the 2000 calorie daily value I know that I am fat, but I am trying to work it off, when people make fun of me it only motivates me to wanna do more for myself, because obviously something we are doing is not right and that is all the more reason for you to be made fun of |
| #132 Post by rae, on Thu May 6 2010 0:1 AM |
| The worst is super fat people at a water park |
| #133 Post by FatNhappy, on Thu May 6 2010 5:53 AM |
| I've been skinny but I love being fat. If I didn't like myself the way I am, I would change. Critical people always find something negative to say about others because they are insecure themselves, and they assume others will value their opinions without questioning their motives. No body is perfect whether it is skinny or fat and death is the end result for all bodies. If you can't accept another person because of their body shape, you have a deep underlying problem in your mind and soul that diet and exercise won't fix.. |
| #134 Post by cassie, on Fri May 7 2010 0:4 AM |
| Fat people a gross hahahahahahaaaa sorry if your fat lose weight thats all there is to say ...FATY get on a treadmill and stop complaining the people who are not fat work to not be fat and this is why fat people need to shut up and try to fix there problem if they are tired of getting made fun of!!! |
| #135 Post by Really..., on Sat May 8 2010 0:31 AM |
| I can't believe how quick people are to make fun of other people's insecurities. Do you all think "fatties", as so many of you are calling them, don't know they are overweight... because I'm pretty sure they are aware. It may be your opinion, but what good comes from you calling them "disgusting"? Does it make you feel better? I'm sure all you people talking shit on fat people have something people could make fun of you for. Think before you speak. What happened to treating others the way you wanted to be treated? |
| #136 Post by Colin, on Sun May 9 2010 5:33 AM |
| STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS. Seriously though the greater internet fuckwad theory states that a normal person given anonymity plus an audience will turn into a heinous misanthrope. I don't think any of the insensitive posters in this thread will walk away with a lesson learned from any righteous well minded users. http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Internet_Fuckwad_Theory |
| #137 Post by Tim, on Sun May 9 2010 11:46 AM |
| This world is sickening, People act like every damn thing is offensive. Obese people, gay people, black people, white people, chinese! Does nobody see that it's a never ending cycle and it's not doing a bit of good for anyone including yourselves, if you reached your goal of getting rid of everything you hate about this world you'd move on to something else, nothing will ever be good enough!!! Grow up everyone stop being so hateful! This is nothing but childish garbage!!! |
| #138 Post by Victoria, on Mon May 10 2010 10:24 PM |
| 1. I'm a 280 lb woman. 2.I am beautiful If you want me to prove that I happily will. 3. I am completely healthy. I eat Salads and chicken.I don't eat carbs (habit from everyone in my family being diabetic) I work full time on my feet.I walk daily and do any and every heart/ cancer research/ Support a cause walk I can find.I see the doctor twice a year to be checked for any and everything that COULD be wrong. And you know the only thing he finds? Low blood pressure.yes Low. 4. People have the right to be offended when they feel bullied or that some one os being prejudiced against their personal style, life.. Blah blah. I mean how would all the skinny fit people feel if the world was backwards and everyone saw them as disgusting. Walk a mile in my shoes before you judge me. 5. The fact that you feel the need to repeatedly argue about how gross, and stupid, and lazy fat people are, just means you hate something in yourself. And you don't think before you speak.But these are all just one lazy fate girls opinions. If you'd like to further discuss it I'll give up my email Addy *Blessed Be* |
| #139 Post by Alex, on Tue May 11 2010 0:59 AM |
| All of you people who think this is disgusting, stop looking and stop judging. Assholes. Oh.. and I'm 157 pounds? Is that too fat for you? I don't look at obese people and feel disgust, I feel sympathy. The rest of you are a bunch of desensitized jerks. Enjoy your pedestal; you'll be up there alone some day. |
| #140 Post by Anthony.Pittarelli, on Tue May 11 2010 3:45 AM |
| Without engaging in the arguments, this is really interesting. Id love to see one that shows the effect on bone pressure Anthony Pittarelli |
| #141 Post by Uncleangry, on Wed May 12 2010 5:16 AM |
| Fatty McGee's ankle is all F#$^@ up! Not to mention the lack of bone density. That women is going to charge an all you can eat buffet soon and snap one of those spindles. Poor thing, I wonder if she'll bleed gravy? |
| #142 Post by Anon, on Wed May 12 2010 5:20 AM |
| That pic's from a National Geographic issue on fat. Everything I wanted to say about fat has already been said, so if fat people still can't be stunned to reality by photos like this, then I'm pretty sure they want to just kill themselves a thousand calories at a time. |
| #143 Post by Stan, on Wed May 12 2010 5:55 AM |
| The excuse, "she is just big boned", has just been Myth-Busted. |
| #144 Post by disgustingFatties, on Wed May 12 2010 5:16 PM |
| @Victoria: You are 280 pounds .... you are not beautiful. You are disgustingly obese. Now it's possible you are surrounded by people who out of political corectness choose not to point this out but you're definitely obese. All the fatties in denial & everyone complaining how the fatties are being insulted need to wake up!! If someone receives acceptance for gross negligence of their body then why would they want to change? These fatties need to stop being defended for their gluttony & instead encouraged through either positive or negative reinforcement to lose weight so that they can live longer & provide less of a burden on society through the various medical issues they force others around them to pay for. |
| #145 Post by Victoria, on Thu May 13 2010 6:38 PM |
| @disgustingfatties Believe me I face assholes like you everyday. I Just don't care. Like I said when You judge someone thats different than you it's just a fear of something different, or a fear of someone pointing out something "wierd" about you first. And How Am I a burden on Society? I'm a manager at Wal-mart I pay my bills, how are you and everyone else paying for me?And you assume we are all gluttons? The 120 pound girls you see probably eat more than alot of the obese people you know. Because People like you are so angry at an image that you don't understand that it pushes the younger generations in our country into eating disorders. Be happy with putting you biast opinion out there. Be happy with yourself for making other people feel bad about themselves. In a few weeks we'll all forget about you, but when Karma comes for you, and you think about all the people you were mean to in your life, you'll be the one thining of us. *Blessed be* and enjoy a short narrow-minded life To my fellow "fatties" Smile Be healthy and don't let anyone judge you but you. |
| #146 Post by Ryan, on Fri May 14 2010 4:45 PM |
| It's true what Victoria (above) says about eating... My brother-in-law is skinny as a rail, and eats a ton and drinks a LOT of beer. And, he's not active at all... mostly just plays Xbox. I, on the other hand, have always had a weight issue. Part of it stems from the fact that I work on a computer all day for my work, and I don't move as much as I should. However, I don't eat more than my B.I.L and I only rarely drink, yet I weigh about 100 lbs more than him. Why? Genetics, period. |
| #147 Post by Van, on Sun May 16 2010 1:24 PM |
| Some of you people are so incredibly ignorant. You have no idea what goes on in some people's lives and what has caused them to overeat and/or be overweight. Btw, the two of them don't always go hand in hand. Some people have a predisposition to being overweight and some have been overweight their whole lives and don't know where to start in living a healthy lifestyle. Losing weight is one of the most challenging things anyone can do in life. It takes a huge amount of hard work and discipline. All you who've had a perfect figure your entire lives really have no idea what being overweight is all about. FYI, maintaing a healthy body weight is 100x easier than losing weight. |
| #148 Post by disgustingFatties, on Tue May 18 2010 8:33 PM |
| Look, examples are brought up by fatties that there are skinny people with terrible eating habits. Nobody is denying this occurs but there is no way anyone can claim this applies to most skinny people. Same way that there are medical disorders which make obesity inevitable. However, this applies to a small percentage of fatties. No sane person can point to medical issues for most fatties terrible shape. @Victoria: Let me explain to you why you are a drain on resources. Overweight people like yourself have voluntarily chosen a lifestyle which greatly increases the chance of hyper tension, heart failures & various other fatal or life debilitating conditions. When you are no longer to support yourself, who do you think picks up the bill for you?? Same way a young, hip 20 year old who smokes heavily is supporting himself with a decent career. However, as he reaches 50+ all the health ailments he has picked up from heavy smoking for 30 years leaves him unable to take care of himself & unable to work. Who picks up the medical bill?? The fact that you can ignore my comments after a couple weeks is terrible because you need many months of cardio to go from obese to normal. |
| #149 Post by InferiorGood, on Wed May 19 2010 4:10 AM |
| A lot of people on this site have argued that obesity is genetic which can be true. People have also asked why typically skinny people would care if another person is obese, and claim that it is not their right to criticize. I'm not necessarily the most patriotic person around but to me its lately been coming down to pride. Look around the world. Sure there are some other countries with slightly obese people, but in general, the entire world looks at us as fat Americans and its become embarrassing. Some other countries are poor, which means less money which means less food. However, this doesn't mean the same thing it does for us. In other countries being fat is a luxury. In America, it's a curse. This is mainly because of the shit we put in our foods and our eating habits. Lower income leads to an increase in inferior goods, meaning an increase in KFC, McDonald's, and Burger King. A.K.A. poison. We ARE lazy too. Little kids now need portable DVD players at dinner in order to keep them occupied and absent parents use Television as a stand in Nanny. Children no long occupy themselves by playing outdoors. Now they just sit indoors staring at a computer screen or a T.V. screen, involuntarily shoveling down some partially hydrogenated oils waiting to get fat. Eat healthily. Its simply math: burn more than you consume. Good luck America. |
| #150 Post by ashley, on Thu May 20 2010 5:5 PM |
| Team April! |
| #151 Post by me, on Fri May 21 2010 11:5 AM |
| I JUST CAN'T GET OVER HOW IMMATURE YOU ALL ARE CALLING PEOPLE "FATTY'S!" GROW UP! IF ALL THOSE "FATTY'S" KNEW YOU PERSONALLY I BET THEY WOULD HAVE A FEW NAMES FOR YOU TOO! GROW UP! HIGH SCHOOL IS OVER! |
| #152 Post by her, on Fri May 21 2010 11:17 AM |
| I would just like to add that I am a cute girl with a little bit of a weight problem. I hate being put into that category of people who pig out on fast food and sit on a couch all day because that is not me. Just because someone is overweight does not mean they eat bad and are lazy. I drink skim milk, use splenda in everything, diet coke, eat salads, fruit, have no red-meat in my diet, and choose mostly seafood, sushi,and many other healthy choices when eating out. I am also very active, excersize and work hard for a living. Yes there are people who make bad choices, and there are people who make good choices, but the results are different for everyone and that is why it is not fair to judge. I feel nothing but sympothy for someone who is severely obese,obviously they are miserable enough without you people being disgusted by them and calling them names. Grow up! |
| #153 Post by Zeeta, on Sun May 23 2010 2:38 AM |
| What pisses me off is that the government is now saying that I have to pay the medical bills for all these people who are too spoiled to say no to overeating. Fat people aren't satisfied with one serving of dessert, they want the whole freakin cake. I don't want to pay for their diabetes and other illnesses. Being fat is a self imposed illness that should not be subsidized by taxes. Maybe if people were made to take some responsibility for their own actions they would stop being such gluttonous self indulgent pigs. |
| #154 Post by MeanPeopleSuck, on Mon May 24 2010 0:8 AM |
| I wonder how many people here that say they hate fat people are actually fat themselves. Also, some people can't help but be fat and some can't help but be complete @ssholes! At least fat people can get fit but what about you @ssholes?? :D |
| #155 Post by FatSurgery, on Mon May 24 2010 3:39 AM |
| hello.i'm 18 years ol girl, from greece and 3 weeks ago i had a LapBand surgery to lose some of my 102 kilos. today i saw this picture and i'm crying because i know my scan is something like that. after,i read the comments and i wanted to kill my self.how people can be so hard?i know that in a year i'm gonna be a thin_girl, after a painfull surgery and many many many visits to psychiatrists.a diet isn't just a decision.when you have to lose 5 kilos you can do it in two month.but what about 50? it's like a huge mountain.the reason for the overeating thing is starting from our mind.eating, for fat people is not just a pleasure, is backup for psychological disorders and this is not my opinion,it's doctors' diagnosis.i'm on the way to solve this problem.first in my mind,and then my body.i realy can't understand why you are so negative and critical. DON"T BE ANYTHING! don't talk like that,realy.and if you can't do that,don't talk generaly about the "left woman". my fat body was always a knife in my heart even you agree with that even you are not. i'm trying to throw it away.i'm doing it right now.i have this think around my stomach.why are you pushing the knife deeper?? some of you are asking why fat people are so sensitive.guess what..they are not!! but by you talking like that you make US hurt and revolt.SHAME ON YOU!you are talking about the scan but you FORGOT THE SPIRIT.you ruined my day,my month,happines for the body i'm going to have..you have to be sorry for the feeling i have now.the picture is making us (fat people) think about their health.your words are making us cry.please,be carefull..some people are on a diet.don't make them hate their bodysthemselfs |
| #156 Post by FatSurgery, on Mon May 24 2010 3:43 AM |
| a! and also remember that words are too easy.. have you ever been on a diet?? THANK YOU "MeanPeopleSuck"! |
| #157 Post by John, on Mon May 24 2010 4:25 AM |
| Hypothyroidism is usually quite easy to treat (for most people)! The easiest and most effective treatment is simply taking a thyroid hormone pill (Levothyroxine) once a day, preferably in the morning. This medication is a pure synthetic form of T4 which is made in a laboratory to be an exact replacement for the T4 that the human thyroid gland normally secretes. |
| #158 Post by pimpin, on Mon May 24 2010 1:49 PM |
| Hahahah the fatties on here crack me up! Especially the ones who say their day/week/month/life is ruined by random comments on this random site! Poor fatties LOL |
| #159 Post by Liz, on Tue May 25 2010 5:51 PM |
| Wow, such hatred. And to all the haters -- hate and hatred stems from issues deeply seated within the psyche. Does that mean all haters are psychotic? LOL |
| #160 Post by JoeyD, on Sat May 29 2010 3:29 AM |
| the fat chick's brain looks more active.. |
| #161 Post by just_observing, on Fri Jun 4 2010 1:3 PM |
| Comments on this page are much more interesting than the picture itself. Comments seem to fall into two groups: 1) Overweight/Obese people are disgusting/lazy/scourge of the earth/etc.... 2) Pointing at posters with negative comments at overweight/obese people as mean-spirited/evil/scourge of the earth/etc... There's also disagreement on whether the overweight person is to blame for their physical condition. ===== Based on these comments, I think it's obvious that overweight people must deal with lots of negative stereotypes in areas beyond health. Such as work ethic/intelligence/morals/etc... If I was overweight/obese I would be hurt by these comments but I would also use them as my inspiration to achieve better health. Arguing for acceptance is impossible. What is really happening is that overweight/obese people are arguing to not be insulted in a way where they can read/hear the insults. ===== I think this points out that when you're overweight, not only must you worry about the increased possibility of various medical conditions which can lead to early death ... you must also worry about overcoming negative stereotypes in all other aspects of living. ==== People referred to as "fatties" should not waste their time arguing with others to justify their conditions because it appears these negative feelings run very deep. These people would be better served turning these negative comments into a burning desire to change themselves, imho. |
| #162 Post by Helen, on Sat Jun 5 2010 0:1 AM |
| okay, well when you see a smoker's lungs what is your reaction? I'm supposing vehement hate isn't there, but probably pity. who gives a fuck. |
| #163 Post by Raime, on Sat Jun 5 2010 2:14 AM |
| No one is allowed to comment on these women's bodies without a name, direct link to the commentator's image and homepage that is verified, like a driver's license with the all important stuff blanked out. Seriously. On another note, I wonder what those spots are in the larger woman's brain? It appears to be the same color as the skin and fat deposits. How is a scan like this produced? What is going on with the larger woman's ankle, ouch! Does the thinner woman have some kind of shoulder injury? I DEMAND ANSWERS!!!!111 |
| #164 Post by Tiffany, on Tue Jun 15 2010 11:33 PM |
| I did not take a lot of time to read all of the posts. I am obese, so I am well aware that I need to get my ass up off the computer and exercise. Diet is going well and yes, less calorie intake and more exercise is most often the real solution. I saw a lot of people on here making comments about thyroid disease and other metabolic issues which are all valid, but rare. I wanted to make a point that may shed some light for a few, fatties or not. I have lost weight in the past and "yo-yo" up and down. I know HOW to lose it, and I am not lazy. I have committed self sabotage because I was raped from the age of 10 to thirteen (which is when I started to gain weight) I wear my fat as a protection from the world, don't look at me, don't see me and please, don't be attracted to me. So, while there is a physical answer, -calories + exercise = weight loss, it is usually more emotionally complicated than that. Please take a moment to have compassion for ALL people and whatever issues/addictions/problems they may be having. No one is perfect. Try a little kindness. I'm starting by being kinder to myself. Peace. |
| #165 Post by Sara, on Wed Jun 23 2010 1:22 AM |
| That's a really disproportionate 250 pound woman. : |
| #166 Post by Chris, on Fri Jul 2 2010 8:46 PM |
| I am suprised nobody mentioned amphetamines (at ex. Adderall is pharmaceutical mix of few of it's forms) as a remedy. It allways works, quickly and efficently, it boost metabolism speed and suppresses appetite :). You will need to use it with moderation though if you have addictive personality. ;) |
| #167 Post by JL1, on Sun Jul 25 2010 10:42 AM |
| Fat people are simply weak and lazy. Stop eating, move, expend more calories than you eat and you lose weight. Of course, excuses are much easier. |
| #168 Post by Guinness, on Mon Jul 26 2010 9:19 AM |
| April... Prednisone does not cause weight gain. Just want to throw that out there. |
| #169 Post by Guinness, on Mon Jul 26 2010 9:32 AM |
| Just feel like saying another thing: Victoria... "1. I'm a 280 lb woman. 2.I am beautiful If you want me to prove that I happily will." Maybe on the inside. Obesity is not attractive in our society. At all. "3. I am completely healthy. I eat Salads and chicken.I don't eat carbs (habit from everyone in my family being diabetic) I work full time on my feet.I walk daily and do any and every heart/ cancer research/ Support a cause walk I can find.I see the doctor twice a year to be checked for any and everything that COULD be wrong. And you know the only thing he finds? Low blood pressure.yes Low." That doesn't imply health at all. Learn a little more about nutrition... There is almost no way you could eat no carbs at all. Salad and chicken? That's it? Diversify. So you walk a lot also? Impressive. How much effort it takes you is another thing entirely. Regardless of what you say, there is going to be a much bigger strain on your legs and back than there would be for a person of average weight. Physics, darlin'. "4. People have the right to be offended when they feel bullied or that some one os being prejudiced against their personal style, life.. Blah blah. I mean how would all the skinny fit people feel if the world was backwards and everyone saw them as disgusting. Walk a mile in my shoes before you judge me." You have a right to feel offended, of course. The great thing is, fit people will never have to worry about people thinking they are disgusting, because the world isn't backwards. If being 250lbs with the majority being fat meant that you could run faster, lift heavier things, throw farther, and go farther... People would be packing in the fat. But that's not how biological organisms work. Fat provides warmth and a back-up energy source, along with lining for cells. Other than that, it has few positive contributions to our lifestyles. We need it, but not to excess. "5. The fact that you feel the need to repeatedly argue about how gross, and stupid, and lazy fat people are, just means you hate something in yourself. And you don't think before you speak.But these are all just one lazy fate girls opinions. If you'd like to further discuss it I'll give up my email Addy *Blessed Be*" Take a little bit more than an internet lesson in psychology. Carl Jung would be facepalming right now. |
| #170 Post by Bigmau5, on Fri Aug 6 2010 7:28 PM |
| I don't care what the excuse, being fat must suck asssss!! This is proof! Look at the brain!! It's literally deteriorated on the outside and the inside, making them dumber and in less control of conscious reality... Why are almost all Japanese people fit? Because they never eat to the point of satisfaction. Balance and moderation are KEY! Stop making excuses! fat people, stop spending time reading these things and posting your opinion and hop in the swimming pool and google a workout routine, Jesus! |
| #171 Post by Bigmau5, on Fri Aug 6 2010 7:37 PM |
| PS: I have hypothroidism, and I've become a normal functioning person through moderation and DISCIPLINE!! Change is uncomfortable at first, but is ABSOLUTELY necessary to travel to a better place! |
| #172 Post by Kellie, on Thu Nov 11 2010 8:34 AM |
| Obesity is also a disease. Sometimes I think ignorance is too, just because someone is highly obese does not make them ignorant to the reasoning behind how they got that way. Look into their family history, look into the way they grew up, the foods they grew up eating, were we all given the same chances in the beginning because I know my mama didn't make the same thing and my friends' parents....and you tell me this is judging someone strictly because of their weight not one of the last forms of "except" discrimination because you can be completely left out because of your weight and no one will ever say anything, so when your the chubby kid and the skinny kids won't pick you to play with them at recess...who's kicking you down...they are just adding to it...DISCRIMINATION is EVERYWHERE...just which one will you except. |
| #173 Post by Joe, on Wed Nov 17 2010 11:13 AM |
| Guinness, number 169. Yes I would like you to prove it. You can reach me at cunning_llama_trainer@hotmail.com (old email, I will recheck for a picture or message where I can see or talk to you). This message board has been sullied beyond believe to the point where nobody will be reading these posts. If by miracle mine has been read I would like to point out that out of the first 6 observational posts only one ,by Liz, number 4, could be seen as a slight towards the obese before a shrew of "fat is the new skinny" posts. |
| #174 Post by Michelle, on Sat Nov 27 2010 5:22 AM |
| Oh quit whining that being fat should be accepted in society and how it's normal or whatever. Nothing is normal about it. If you are overweight, you have fat, and what is stored in fat? Toxins. You're basically a walking toxin rollercoaster hybrid chemical-run "human". Natural whole foods diet is the only way to go. Doesn't get any simpler than that. Don't eat anything that comes from a box (unless you know the ingredients and can make the damn thing yourself) |
| #175 Post by Michelle, on Sat Nov 27 2010 5:23 AM |
| Oh quit whining that being fat should be accepted in society and how it's normal or whatever. Nothing is normal about it. If you are overweight, you have fat, and what is stored in fat? Toxins. You're basically a walking toxin rollercoaster hybrid chemical-run "human". Natural whole foods diet is the only way to go. Doesn't get any simpler than that. Don't eat anything that comes from a box (unless you know the ingredients and can make the damn thing yourself) |
| #176 Post by nannou, on Wed Dec 1 2010 1:1 PM |
| OMG her heart and stomach are massive |
| #177 Post by Dsmall, on Sun Dec 19 2010 4:19 AM |
| Stop sugar coating it. Obesity is NOT attractive. This picture is horribly disgusting. And obesity should NEVER be accepted. If your children are overweight then its the parents fault. When your children grow up with diabetes and heart problems blame yourselves. Eat right and get in shape. Then you wont have to be so defensive when someone says something negative about a fat person, you wont feel like you're being attacked. |
| #178 Post by Jay, on Tue Dec 21 2010 2:29 AM |
| I just barfed in my mouth a little..... |
| #179 Post by joedaddy, on Tue Dec 28 2010 10:59 AM |
| Wow, you people that talk about overweight people are barbaric absolutely lacking in much humanism at all or care for your fellow human being.Looking down on others was probably taught to you by someone who looked down on you, and you've failed to rise above it and are repeating the cycle. If you have the metabolism of a hummingbird or can workout as necessary, good for you, but there are a lot of very ignorant people without compassion on here and that scares me more than the picture of a woman who will likely find her life cut short unwilling or unable to help herself - it is impossible to know for sure. But you guys can judge right? You know what she's been thru - correct? This society doesn't give a damn about people or what road might have led them to where they are. You just see a pour soul and point the finger and say "you deserve it". Wow, what a bunch of Nazis like bastards. |
| #180 Post by Sammeh, on Tue Dec 28 2010 2:11 PM |
| Definitely Photoshop, either that or the obese one has two identical brain tumors. |
| #181 Post by Third Year Medical Student, on Tue Dec 28 2010 2:57 PM |
| This is actually a very interesting scan. You can see the spots of diseased tissue in the overweight woman's heart, which is pretty neat to me, considering that I'm currently working under a cardio-thoracic surgeon. Anyways... I'm too lazy to go through the comments, so forgive me if it's already been mentioned, but the black spots are on the scans of BOTH the overweight woman and the average sized woman, and are not undigested food, but areas containing more oxygen. If an area contains oxygen, it's vascular. Notice the lungs, bladder, and space below the brain. There is also oxygen in the digestive tract; hence, gas (if you want to say it's carbon dioxide... CO2 contains oxygen). If you knew how to read a PET-scan, that'd be apparent. But anyways... I think it's fascinating to see the differences between a healthy body and one that is unhealthy. To everyone that is arguing whether it's disgusting or not... It's not the most pleasant of images, but it's reality. And being the daughter of a woman who has been obese for the majority of her life, I've seen the reality in person. My mother, however, has lost 126 pounds in the past two years, and I couldn't be more proud of her. If you want to rag on about fat people, then consider this: My mom dropped everything to take care of my sister and I. She cared more about us than she did about her own body. And honestly, I feel like she did the right thing by putting us first, but she should have taken time for herself. And now that my sister and I have "left the nest", she's finally taken time for herself. She's eating better, going to the gym, doing what she enjoys... I'm so proud of her. So... please... stop with the insults towards obese people. If you're wondering, I weigh 116 pounds. I'm active- I run about 3 miles every other day, and I have a strict weightlifting schedule. I'm healthy. My sister? She's the same as I am. We're very health conscious. Then again, I'm also in school to become a doctor, so being unhealthy would be hypocritical, would it not? |
| #182 Post by Alliana, on Tue Dec 28 2010 5:22 PM |
| These are artistic representations not actual scans. Either their heads are on backwards or their hearts are on the wrong side of their body. Not to mention I have never seen anyones colon sit right below their heart considering they are in two separate cavities. Either way Obesity is unhealthy but so is judging people on looks alone. |
| #183 Post by joe, on Tue Dec 28 2010 6:2 PM |
| fat people aren't human. thus it is ok to make fun and laugh at them. |
| #184 Post by ashamed, on Tue Dec 28 2010 11:25 PM |
| Just to make sure I'm understanding the predominant theme here: fat is to wrong, as black is to white....right? Because everyone knows that there is absolutely no gray area to obesity--you either choose to be fat or you choose to be socially acceptable and thin. Emotional/mental factors, disease, genetics, childbearing, and pressure have ABSOLUTELY no affect on the weight of an individual. I mean, everyone is blessed with the metabolism of a ten-year-old throughout their stress-inducing careers, pregnancies, divorces, illnessess and otherwise gleeful lives! And we all know that despite a 9 to 5 job, tennis lessons, Boyscout meetings, and ballet lessons for the children there is ALWAYS time to work out before spending actual time with your family and spouse (which always exists to lend a hand and share parental responsibilities) and before dinner is made! You arrogant, narrow-minded, intolerant poster-children should all go wipe your asses with some of your narcassistic egos and save us a couple trees. Fuck heads. |
| #185 Post by Jeff, on Wed Dec 29 2010 5:2 AM |
| The pics here don't disgust me nearly as much as the comments on this board.I wonder how many of you smoke knowing that lung cancer kills thousands of people a day. over eating is hard to quit as well even though we know that it can kill us. are you less human or more disgusting a person cause you smoke/drink/do drugs/smoke pot or any other habit ? why are we large people looked at that way yet all others are acceptable and even cool to do and be ? |
| #186 Post by Teri, on Wed Dec 29 2010 11:24 AM |
| People should do their research prior to even posting on these things saying that weight is all about calories in/calories out. While that is the BASIS of weight loss/gain/maintenance, there is more to it than that. Hormones play a huge part, medications, even breathing exhaust fumes and ingesting the pesticides on your fruits and vegetables can cause people's metabolism to slow. Also, I (sarcastically) appreciate it when people think that just because someone is less than a certain weight that they are "healthy" I know a plethora of people who are considered thin but are WAAAAY beyond healthy due to their steady metabolism, they drink alcohol excessively and live off fast food....please tell me how THIS equals health? |
| #187 Post by Allie, on Wed Dec 29 2010 2:34 PM |
| Alliana: definitely not artistic depictions; it's real! You're looking at it as if the person is looking at you, so the heart is in the correct orientation. I'm surprised nobody has pointed out the fact that the slices aren't in the same place for each woman. The 250lb slice is taken in a plane that goes through the eyes, whereas the 120lb slice is taken in a plane that goes through the ears. That makes a huge difference as to the amount of fat that shows up. I just thought I'd point that out... |
| #188 Post by Bluejeanphoenix, on Wed Dec 29 2010 7:13 PM |
| Jeff, 12/29/10: "The pics here don't disgust me nearly as much as the comments on this board.I wonder how many of you smoke knowing that lung cancer kills thousands of people a day. over eating is hard to quit as well even though we know that it can kill us. are you less human or more disgusting a person cause you smoke/drink/do drugs/smoke pot or any other habit ? why are we large people looked at that way yet all others are acceptable and even cool to do and be ?" Cogent point. It's clear that it isn't a behavior, a choice, or a lifestyle that's being criticized here - it's an entire sub-class of people, distinguished only by their appearance - and that, to me, is almost indistinguishable from racism. The only difference is that with obesity, the lifestyle and behavior of the individual DOES have SOME impact on the identifying trait, whereas the physical presentation of race, for example, is never impacted by behavior. (Though it can be argued that there actually is a behavioral component to race - that how race is "performed," affects how race is perceived.) But the degrees to which behavior can impact body-fat composition and the degrees to which biology is destiny are still questionable, at best. For example, it's obvious that a sedentary lifestyle and an excess of calories will cause the vast majority of people to gain weight. However, this is not the case for everyone. We all have that friend that sits around and eats whatever they want, and never gains a pound. (How irritating!) And there are plenty of people who bemoan, whether justly or unjustly, that they can't even look at food without gaining weight. There's also the fact that while gaining weight seems to be awfully easy, the success rate of permanent weight loss suggests that for many people, their efforts are futile. We also forget that it's only in the past sixty years or so that such a vast array of prepackaged food has been made readily available in the Western World, and this is competing with millions of years of evolutionary programming instructing us to seek food wherever we can, and store it as fat, because we never knew when our next meal was coming. And in a world where so many people are starving and even in America, 1 in 5 families struggles to put dinner on the table, obsessing over unattractive fat seems like a particularly First World problem. Sociologically speaking, fat has come in and out of vogue in various societies all over the world for differing reasons - the last time pasty fat people were in vogue, they used to be the idle rich, who stayed indoors at leisure, and weren't laboring in the fields all day. Now the only people who can work out on a Stairmaster 3 hours a day, have macrobiotic menus prepared by a personal chef, have a nip and a tuck and cap it off at the tanning salon are - you guessed it - the idle rich. (The ones not chained to a computer indoors for 8-10 hours a day getting stressed, fat, and pasty.) Aside from all this sensible debate, there's a tremendous amount of hate and vitriol flying around here. I'm always amazed at the ability fat has to stir such profoundly negative reactions in people...It must be possible to have a rational discussion on this topic without resorting to hysteria and venom. I suffered with horrendous body image for years - I look back at photos of myself, 100 pounds lighter than I am now, and laugh...I thought I was a whale, and I was actually a normal, healthy girl who had succumbed to our country's body hate. And now that I'm "obese," I've never been happier or prouder to be in my own skin because it means I've accepted myself, and refuse to play that game anymore. (Healthy as a horse, by the way, and a frequent exerciser.) Would I be happy to lose a bit of weight? Sure, I guess - the same way I'd be happy to get better sleep, get a flu shot, become more flexible, or relieve back pain by taking up yoga. The point is, body fat only ever needs to be a health issue, not a gauge of social permissibility...yet, it very obviously is, and is very obviously enforced, not just by cruelty, but also by silence, and shame. To the haters: 1) Get off the gerbil wheel, and pause long enough to ask, "Why am I so upset about fat that isn't even on me?" 2) Say no to hate, for yourself and the people around you. 3) Let compassion motivate your words and actions. 4) Be happy. You are 100% fine, exactly as you are. |
| #189 Post by Flabulous, on Thu Jan 6 2011 0:37 AM |
| I think fatties should be made to pay more for public transport - especially Air! why should us healthy and sexy people have to pay same as it costs to transport an Elephant? I also fail to to understand why I pay the same for clothes when fatties use far more cloth!? As for comparing fat hating to racism or being a homophobe? HA! An obese person CHOOSES to be fat. A homosexual does not choose to love to the same sex, in the same way a hetrosexual person doesn't choose to love the opposite sex. A black person doesn't choose to be black, in the same way a white person doesn't choose to be white. A healthy person doesn't choose to be healthy, they just naturally are. An Obese person CHOOSES to gorge on fat inducing foods and do little exercise. If a person chooses to indulge in overeating to such a point that breathing makes them sweat, why SHOULDN'T I be disgusted by that? It is not like being fat just crept up and jumped out on them one day! Yes, I understand that a SMALL number of cases out there cause people to gain weight, or reduce metabolism, or that women gain weight while pregnant. but not ONE of those cases causes a person to gain 100s of pounds in EXCESS weight, and to imply it does it utter BS. You have a condition that causes you to gain weight? Eat better, exercise more! You have a slow metabolisim? Eat better, exercise more! You gained weight having kids? Eat better, exercise more! You have SUCH a busy lifestyle that you couldn't possibly fit exercise into it due to time constraints?? guess what? 80%-odd of your weight problem will be solved if you just eat BETTER! there is NO excuse for being OBESE, other than it is your own fault. It is 100% a lifestyle choice that they knowingly choose to proceed. To be compared to being a racist, or homophobe or other "hate" criminal is just another lazy tactic to avoid dealing with their fat carrying vessel and lamely justify their current situation without having to admit "yes, you are right, carrying this much excess fat is disgusting, a sign of overindulgence, and a plight to loved ones and health care, I am actually a problem for society and unslightly to look at" that said, you fatties are a great motivation to keeping fit! cheers! |
| #190 Post by Missi, on Thu Jan 6 2011 0:55 AM |
| This photo is actually from a 2005 National Geographic article about the diet of Americans. Funny to see this photo creep back up after all these years. |
| #191 Post by Flabulous, on Thu Jan 6 2011 1:51 AM |
| furthermore - I firmly believe that if fatties got nothing but sympathy, or support or if society didn't vocally object to their flabby being then we would be hearing "oh, it's not fair, people support us to much and all this sympathy makes it difficult to motivate myself to lose weight" Fatties are just plain lazy. There are only 2 things they are NOT lazy about. 1. Eating food 2. making up excuses why they are fat. "I don't eat that much" "I walk" "I sit at a desk all day and don't have time to exercise" eat a proper balanced diet - problem solved. and saying you do is rubbish, if you did, you wouldn't be fat! Show me ONE athlete that eats pizza, sausage rolls, white bread, crisps etc? you think there might be a link there? Training and going to the gym has only a little to do with losing weight, but everything to do with getting healthy people to a stage of physical peak. If you want to lose weight - you do not NEED to work out or go to the gym. Just eat healthy and move a little more than you currently do. If you want to lose weight FAST then go to the gym AND eat healthy! If you are eating about 2000 calories a day, you WILL eventually lose the weight (slowly). If you are sneaking in a chocolate biscuit, or eating a 1000 calorie pizza for lunch and dinner with a coffee and breakfast - of COURSE you're going to gain weight. (if you simply stop eating just ONE 250 calorie chocolate bar every work coffee break - you drop nearly 2 pounds worth of calories in a month! just ONE small change) Don't sweat, breath heavily, take your insulin, and then moan and whinge that you're overweight! As for "you don't know what people go through" as an excuse.... seriously? tell me one person that doesn't have some sort of turmoil in their life!? that is such a patronising excuse to vomit up "my life is harder than yours, so I eat to deal with it!" get over yourself! there is nothing wrong with being a little overweight, some people actually look really good with a little curve to them. Being Obese, or worse though - there is NO excuse. None. |
| #192 Post by Dave, on Thu Jan 6 2011 9:12 AM |
| I refuse to molly-coddle fat people anymore. In Canada, where our taxes pay for everyone's health care, fat people are a needless drain on resources. I've been fat, it took two years to get to a healthy weight again, and worth every minute. If you want to kill yourself, pick up a gun and get it over with, leave the twinkies alone. If you're fat its your fault, stop blaming your meds or some made up b.s. and go for a walk. We were once a capable species of hunters and gatherers, it's pathetic what we've become. Here's a test: Can you see your belt buckle without using a mirror? Yes; good work. No; get off the fucking couch and stay out of the kitchen for fucks sakes. |
| #193 Post by dennis, on Thu Jan 6 2011 4:35 PM |
| America is falling apart. Look at all you fighting each other over petty things. We should fight the bastards who have a stranglehold on this country (government). They want us to be too fat and dumb to notice what they do. In the meantime they have made us all slaves in their tax farm. |
| #194 Post by dicks, on Thu Jan 6 2011 7:1 PM |
| damn, who's the sexy bitch on the left? |
| #195 Post by Stagger Lee, on Fri Jan 7 2011 4:30 AM |
| What if there was a Hitler for fat people? |
| #196 Post by candadianwafflecake, on Fri Jan 7 2011 10:4 AM |
| It seems to me too many people have inner issues and just seem to try bump them into the thread at random moments i.e. Anything regarding racism, Fatty Haters, Medical weight gain,(we can't help it, maybe I have Elephantiasis, but still I'm mature enough to keep my own personal problems out of a internet forums) Link for Elephantiasis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephantiasis Meanwhile, to all the retards and sensitive whiners. Get a grip, people ARE fat, and we all know why. Only they can change it if THEY are determined to. Reality sucks eh internet geeks. Go read How to lose weight for dummies, I believe it would strongly benefit any of you fat braggarts. |
| #197 Post by kathy, on Fri Jan 7 2011 3:13 PM |
| People come in all shapes and sizes.No one wants to be that big.Genetics,lack of excersize,willpower,education,lifestyle,depression .My mom fed me alot when I was a baby,I am 177lbs.when I exercized I was 165,not a huge change.About the hypercritical comments,people today have no manners,no real regard for others,everything disgusts them. |
| #198 Post by Aaron Hernandez, on Fri Jan 7 2011 3:19 PM |
| omg. look how disgusting the one on the left is. |
| #199 Post by Drats b, on Fri Jan 7 2011 4:8 PM |
| 2 out of 3 Americans are overweight to obese. That's about 270 million people. In the year 2000, the total annual cost of obesity in the United States was $117 billion. While extra value meals may save us some change at the counter, they’re costing us billions of dollars in health care and lost productivity. Physical inactivity and super-sized meals are leading to a nation of oversized people. This year, more than 300,000 Americans will die from illnesses related to overweight and obesity. Obesity contributes to the number-one cause of death in our nation: heart disease. Excess weight has also led to an increase in the number of people suffering from Type 2 diabetes. There are at least 17 million Americans with diabetes, and another 16 million have pre-diabetes. Each year, diabetes costs America $132 billion. It can lead to eye diseases, cardiovascular problems, kidney failure, and early death. About 1 in 20 people in the US suffer from hypothyroidism. 8 out of 9 Americans think they are eating healthly. McDonalds sells 4.2 million burgers a day. http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/news/testimony/obesity07162003.htm |
| #200 Post by katie, on Fri Jan 7 2011 6:40 PM |
| I'm a med school student and I have time to work out. I will add that I study a good eleven hours a day. I apologize if you are overweight because of a serious medical issue, but people are right. Normally one is overweight because of lifestyle.I have seen many healthy people who have four to six kids and a hard job. Obviously everyone gains weight over time. However, baby weight will NOT make you gain 100 pounds. Stop using that as an excuse. I have seen many sites where girls weigh 100-120 pounds and are called "disgusting" and made fun of by..... overweight people. For example, it will show a skinny woman in a bikini and people will make comments like "no guy likes someone that skinny. It is disgusting, ugly, and unnatural." It is not just skinny people who are being cruel. I will add that making fun of the woman is unnecessary. I am not in any way agreeing with those who make mean comments. The point of this is simply to show what it can do to you internally if you do not take care of yourself. Those of you who are offended by this picture need to get over yourselves. This was not secretly photo-shopped. No one is out to get you. Yes, the dumb comments about how funny a fat person is annoy me as well. But all-in-all, if you are overweight from life choices and learned nothing from this picture except to hate skinny people, then there is a bigger problem. |
| #201 Post by Mama, on Sun Jan 9 2011 7:12 AM |
| I think that these images are really interesting. As a massage therapist, I couldn't help noticing the obvious signs of osteoarthritis in the woman on the right (knees), as well as all of the pericardial fat around her heart. It makes me sad, though, whatever her reason or reasons are for her obesity. I do believe that we can make changes to impact our health, whatever small and whatever our circumstances. And for those who want to blame childbirth for weight gain, by the way: I have five kids and right now weigh only five pounds more than I did when I had my first 12 years ago. I credit a good diet and exercise. Oh, and I also have lupus (SLE) and have been on prednisone. Just sayin'. Where there's a will, there's a way. |
| #202 Post by Mama, on Sun Jan 9 2011 7:14 AM |
| Oops! I meant woman on the left in my previous comment. My bad :) |
| #203 Post by Nikki, on Sun Jan 9 2011 2:50 PM |
| Nobody gains 130lbs on prednisone...you're delussional...If we condone fat people that behavior will continue...eating is a substance addiction just like any other substance addiction...would you be saying the same thing if it was a meth addict?!? No! |
| #204 Post by Hans, on Mon Jan 10 2011 1:4 AM |
| As a member of the fat community, nothing pisses me off more than to hear someone say that medicine made them fat. Fucking fess up and admit you like cheeseburgers too much. Obviously being bed-ridden or immobile from an injury can hinder a once-active person and make them become overweight, but really caloric intake is all that matters. My parents were overweight since I was born, now they simply cut calories and watched their intake of fatty foods, no real exercising (beyond maybe walking the dog) and they lost weight. I'm not talking 5-10 Lbs, I'm talking 100. Now to #203, fuck you, you pretentious bitch. If you "condone" fat people? FUCK... YOU! Do you hear people asking whether we should "condone" blacks or Jews or gays? (okay, unfortunately, gays are still being debated by ignorant fucks similar to yourself) Next thing you know this bitch will try to find a Final Solution for fat people! Yeah, I hate those super-obese people too. I wonder how they get on a plane, or even into a car. I wonder how they have sex, logistically, but people have a right to destroy their bodies, and they don't need you to goddamn condone or condemn them. You cannot compare being a meth addict, or any other substance addiction, to being fat. If you ever truly abused any substance ever, you would know this. Your ignorance actually made my brain shudder. |
| #205 Post by wow, on Mon Jan 10 2011 5:13 AM |
| this isnt insulting fat people and the jokes here arent ment to harm others its ment to find humour and make light of the situation we understand that others have trouble fighting offf weight and that diseases or meds make it almost impossible to fend offf but you shouldnt make kneejerk assumptions here based on the jokes made yo momma jokes dont reallyie mean those things and when someone talks of dead infants we dont want to kill them it makes light of the extreme situation while at the same time those same people understand the seriousness of the situation so relax people this isnt an insult to you if you are overweight and myie spelling is OCD just so you kno |
| #206 Post by and also, on Mon Jan 10 2011 5:15 AM |
| also some meds slow metabolism and make it harder to break down the fat from foods so some meds kan inkrease weight mr hans |
| #207 Post by peter, on Mon Jan 10 2011 2:3 PM |
| hahaha fat ass bitch |
| #208 Post by Sally, on Mon Jan 10 2011 3:37 PM |
| As far as being educated goes, saying that you have a bachelor's degree in something as generic and simple as business does not prove any sufficient level of intelligence, really. Maybe spelling things correctly and realizing when to (and when not to) use apostrophes as well as the right use of 'to' and 'too' would be more helpful in proving that specific point. On the topic of obesity of overweight, the people who are pulling up some diseases that are "caused" by obesity should maybe actually learn how to review those studies and look at who is paying to conduct them. At the risk of seeming like a conspiracy theorist, it seems obvious that the majority of our lives are ruled by those who are looking to increase the number in their bank accounts. The researchers on these studies who are finding these results are being paid to interpret the results in this way. Also, this type of discriminatory ideology is very much promoting unhealthy eating behaviors, which, yes, are much more dangerous than being obese can be. And my saying these things is not me being overly sensitive, but just very aware. Saying that talking like this is being too sensitive does not help your argument seem very well-informed or intelligent and mostly just makes you seem like you have nothing better to say. |
| #209 Post by El Aire, on Tue Jan 11 2011 11:46 AM |
| Doesn't anyone wonder why obesity is so much more prevalent today, especially in the United States, than ever before? It's because our culture (or lack thereof) is obsessed with fast food restaurants, television, and convenience. We eat unhealthy food because it's cheaper, easier to cook/buy, and the way it's marketed makes it look appealing, although it's really not. Anyone who actually looks into the ingredients of almost any food that comes from a factory will find that they are made from synthetic, unhealthy, often disease-causing ingredients lacking in nutrition. Don't blame the media for glorying thin, "perfect" celebrities; blame the media for brainwashing the masses into eating unhealthy, fattening food,so they can make even MORE money with diet programs. The way I look at it, MOST overweight people (without predisposed medical conditions making them that way) are lucky, because they can change their weight. I can empathize with their self-esteem issues, because I've had problems with my skin for my whole life, but I will be eternally envious of their ability to change their condition. There's nothing worse than hopelessness. |
| #210 Post by YeppIKnow, on Tue Jan 11 2011 12:32 AM |
| You guys are all being assholes. The point of this is to promote a healthy lifestyle, not so that you can either complain about how lazy fat people are or complain about how poor your self esteem because your overweight. |
| #211 Post by Duckie, on Wed Jan 12 2011 8:3 AM |
| I am 300 pounds. I have always been more active then my friends. I can lift men my size and am as flexible as a ballerina. I just had my thyroid out. They found cancer. They say it is why I have NO metabolism. So before you judge someone for being big, learn their circumstances. Also, poverty and obesity run hand in hand. Have you ever took time to look at a pack of cheep noodles? Or even the nutrient/fat contents of a dollar burger? Iceberg lettuce costs less than romaine. The leaner/healthier foods just cost more. Forget tax breaks, how about a reward for buying healthy! That would defiantly make a dent in the obesity problem in America. |
| #212 Post by John Shaw, on Wed Jan 12 2011 12:14 AM |
| I thought I was fat because of my thyroid too. Then I realized I had been living on twinkies and Big Mac's for the last 30 months. Woops! |
| #213 Post by Ken, on Sun Jan 16 2011 1:21 PM |
| I struggled with weight all through my adolescent/teen years... Then I realized I had to make a change at 17 years of age. I was 275, 6'5", and just a clumsy, chubby, awkward fatty... But I wanted to experience love, I wanted to feel healthy, I wanted people to think I was hot... So I got off my fat arse and started running and stopped eating crap. Within 2 months I dropped down to 225 lbs and got to date the hottest girl I ever knew. SO CASH. Now I'm 200 lbs and I just received top scores on my AFROTC physical. I'm getting attention. I FEEL athletic. I feel healthy. It's amazing. People always tell me how good I look. I can't wait to steal back my girl's heart this summer. <3 IT'S NOT THAT HARD, PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO WANT IT. I used to have sympathy for fatties (I used to be one myself.) NO MORE. My amazing plan for success? DIET AND EXERCISE. I promise, that's it. Just get out and do it! Save yourself from an unhealthy life lived alone! |
| #214 Post by Master P, on Mon Feb 21 2011 5:12 PM |
| I think they're both pretty. |
| #215 Post by Rebecca, on Sat Feb 26 2011 5:27 AM |
| This is actually an incredibly intriguing reality check. I don't want to fight with anyone. Everyone has their own outlooks and opinions of things. All I know (and care to share) is this: 1) Not always are they chosen to be fat. I was diagnosed with cancer, and radiation treatment doesn't usually take away your appetite, but takes away your ability to do something about the food you put in your system. So, because of the lack of movement but not necessarily the dip in appetite, there was an incredible amount of weight gain on my end. 2) It IS changeable. Lifestyle choice or physical issues that cause weight gain, there is a fix to it if you want the fix. If you don't want the fix, you're gonna have to put up with the biases, just like any other stereotype that has a prejudice has to put up with other people's outlooks on them. 3) Whether you are obese or not, you're never going to get anywhere without confidence (which has always been my issue). I've seen women who are twice me who strut their stuff down the street...and I am a 22 year old woman, getting her degree, about to apply for Master's schools, beat cancer, lives on her own, is losing the weight daily, and still can't quite look in the mirror. There's something to be said about confidence. If you're obese and don't want to change it, fine. Understand the biases that come with it and become strong from it. If you are obese (or just want to shed a few pounds) and want to change it like I am currently doing, more power to you! People in your life will be proud of you either way if they love you the way they say they do. ~Rebecca |
| #216 Post by Patrick, on Wed Mar 2 2011 11:57 AM |
| Fat slut. |
| #217 Post by mark, on Fri Mar 4 2011 1:51 PM |
| If we ate less animal based proteins such as meat and dairy and more plant based proteins then we wouldnt have such a problem with obesity, heart disease, cancer and diabetes. If meat wasnt such a staple of the american diet the heart disease and cancer wouldnt be the staple of the american way of dying. and dont even get me started on the millions of so called "healthy" foods that we put in our stomachs( its all fucking junk and we cant listen to food company propaganda!), Potato chips and french fries arent healthy because there made from potatoes! Just because theres lettuce tomatoes and onions a big mac doesnt mean the slab of cow fat (beef and Cheese) wont increase your chance of getting various diseases. if you disagree then email me at Markpsteeves@gmail.com |
| #218 Post by Whitney, on Sat Mar 19 2011 4:56 PM |
| Actually Mark, all proteins have 4 calories per gram. Plant-based proteins are not complete proteins with the exception of soybeans. The human body cannot produce 8 of the essential 20 amino acids it needs to thrive. Amino acids are the building blocks of proteins. A complete protein has all of them, but an incomplete protein does not have all that we need. It can of course be done to eat very healthy on an all vegetable-based diet, but for most people it is not feasible or desirable. Soy-based tofu is often more expensive than traditional options, and it can be more difficult to prepare for less-experienced cooks. To those of you who say that weight gain is not always a lifestyle choice, consider this. When you have an illness that requires a medication that could possible affect your calorie intake/expenditure ratio, your doctor should've explained that to you and helped you find a way to make up for that. If you are hospitalized with an illness, a clinical dietitian is set to make sure your intake is exactly what it should be. Sometimes these professionals are off by a slight amount, but this would be immediately corrected upon figuring it out. Believe me, the caloric need of patients is taken very seriously. If your doctor did not talk to you about this, you should most definitely ask them to talk to you about this as soon as possible. If you need help with lifestyle change and weight loss, the American Dietetics Association can point you in the correct direction. Good day! |
| #219 Post by Chris, on Tue Apr 19 2011 2:14 PM |
| I can not believe people are so mean in our Sociality. I guess people need a punching bag. First off how tall was the lady being screened, and it was clear she carried most of her weight in her belly. Not everyone who weight that much caries it that way. I lost 108lbs and then gained most back. I did not do it eating 3000 calories a day. In order for me to maintain 170 lbs I had to eat 1400 calories a day and exercise my ass off. Now all you big mouths who are making rude remarks how much do you eat each day? You do not know what is like to have metabolism problems that is for sure. |
| #220 Post by ashley, on Thu Apr 28 2011 5:27 PM |
| I weigh 125lb and I am completely disgusted by this entire conversation. Do you realize what saying these awful things about how awful being fat is does to people? I've suffered from eating disorders. I'm also a Type I diabetic. When I hear this, it literally makes me sick. No one chooses to be fat. Just the way anorexics stop eating to cope with stress, many over-eaters are doing the same. But you'd never look at an anorexic girl and tell her she was disgusting and sub-human. Do you feel no guilt by adding to the stress that someone else is facing. You are literally contributing to other people's suicide (immediate or over time). Think what you wish, but don't bash others because your life is clearly so "perfect" that you never suffer from problems and find your own ways of coping with it. |
| #221 Post by Martika, on Fri May 20 2011 2:1 PM |
| Let's be honest, this conversation has way less to do with "what's healthy" and way more to do with "what looks good". Being healthy does not equal a svelte, sleek bod, nor does binging on fatty foods equal obesity. Take a good look at any campus environment, and you'll find way more super hot, skinny ladies in the food court eating Chick fil a, then you will at the gym. I know plenty of women who weigh more, and look larger than I am, but are exponentially more healthy. Stop making this about health. We worship what is not easily achieved. |
| #222 Post by carebear, on Mon Jun 6 2011 6:59 AM |
| im not sticking up for any assholes who are saying if your fat its ur own fault, but yes if you gorge yourself on shit that you know is contributing to your overall weight, then yes, i do think something should be done about it. Me, on the other hand, actually DO have a thyroid problem. I may also have PCOS (Polycystic Ovary syndrome)(i say may as i am currently awaiting a ultrasound on my ovaries) or i may have something more severe wrong with me. whilst alot of obese people nowadays have been like it since a kid, i on the otherhand, used to be real slim, as i used to be a gymnast. i was active my whole kid and teenage life and even to now i am. but when i started secondary school, my weight started to go up (bear in mind i would bike ride every day for at least 2 hours and be outside running about etc. i hated to stay indoors as i get bored easily)i wasnt by no means massively overweight in secondary school but you could tell i was bigger than the other girls there. i stand out more too as i am nearly 6ft and broad shoulderd!my weight actually went down when i left school. i worked everyday so was active. but then i got diagnosed with thyrodism, and since then have struggled with ballooning weight. with thyroidism, it is soooo hard to loose the weight as your metabolic rate is a hell of a lot slower than any "normal" (!) person's of a healthy weight, and even sometimes they (like someone said previously) dont even have a metabolic rate. i, like some others who are overweight, dont actually eat crap. Yes, i do have the occasional packet of crisps or something but thats once in a blue moon. most of the time i eat things like chicken, pasta, soups etc. I am also currently trying to loose my weight through exercising. We have our own treadmill, exercise bike, eliptical trainer and weights (amongst other things) Now, to prove to everyone who thinks its easy for "fatties" to loose weight, my girlfriend (yes im gay, wanna say shit to that too as someone prolly got an opinion on that!)wants to loose weight too. she does have some weight to loose but not as much as me. She did half an hour exercising for the whole week, and by the end of that week you could actually see a difference in the size of her body, whereas with me, i slave away for at least an hour a day, everyday, exercising and busting my ass trying to loose it all, and for what.... i never see any change in my weight..... ppl must understand that it can be impossible for some people to loose weight, but i also understand that being overweight for so many ppl over the world is a lifesytle choice n they should try and loose it to prolong their lives and of those around them (ie if they have kids etc) o and by the way, im not hiding behind my medical problem and nor am i (as someone said way up there) wanting sympathy and for people to stop thinking what they like, but it would be nice if people werent nasty to obese or overweight people, we all have feelings too and yes loads of us are more sensitive, as weve sometimes been ridiculed for it all our lives. so, to make it simple, keep your opinions to yourself, even if you have freedom of speech or whatever. ps. to the person who said "fatties" are lazy, uneducated people. I am more active than most thin people nowadays (certainly compared to my girlfriend!) and i am very educated thank you very much! weight has nothing to do with your education, you idiotic sod! |
| #223 Post by Let's be real, on Fri Jul 29 2011 3:14 PM |
| 1% of fat/obese people actually have thyroid issues. 99% of fat/obese people CLAIM to have thyroid issues. |
| #224 Post by LostWeight, on Wed Sep 14 2011 4:15 PM |
| I've lost 32 pounds in 4 months and have 8 more to go to reach my goal. I feel great and don't get the horrific migraines I used to suffer from. I'm a vegetarian and try to eat as much from organic from scratch as I can. It takes hard work and commitment. I feel amazingly great! I'm 50 years old and run 3-4 times a week as well as practice Yoga and I'm in awesome shape. I don't think it's very nice to put down others who are morbidly obese. They have issues that perhaps we do not have or know anything about. We each have our own burdens to carry and they are ours to deal with. More understanding I think is needed. Cheers! Just try to do a little more to love yourself and the rest follows easier. :) |
| #225 Post by ThinByChoice, on Sat Nov 19 2011 5:11 AM |
| I could give a rat's ass what obese people blame on their obesity. Genetics, virus, metabolism, alien probe, whatever. The bottom line here is the human body WILL NOT GAIN WEIGHT WITHOUT CALORIC INTAKE... period. If you stop eating altogether and you still gain weight, just where in the hell do you think those pounds are coming from? Divine intervention? NO, you gain weight because you eat. Metabolism and all those other things do definitely have an effect on how much and how fast you gain it. But in the end, weight gain is attributed to what you put in your body. I get so sick of people blaming their own personal weaknesses on some genetic factor or outside influence. Alcoholism is another of my pet peeves. People claim it is a disease. BULLSHIT! No one on the face of the Earth who never picked up a drink EVER became an alcoholic. This is just another excuse to drink till you’re blind and blame it on, “the disease”, rather than your own lack of will power. Let’s be honest for a change. Really think hard about what you put in your body. Most overweight people do not cook responsibly, do not eat proper meals at the right times and do not have a sensible exercise regimen. They are depressed about their weight problem and eat to self-medicate. Still, you see them all the time on the documentaries about how they simply cannot lose the weight while they are devouring a turkey carcass and sitting in their overstuffed recliners the entire day. Take an hour of your time and just sit in the dining area of your local fast food restaurant. Make a mental note of the physical conditions of the average patron that enters. I think you’ll find the vast majority are overweight, out of shape and obviously not concerned about their physical condition. It is a fact. We are the fattest nation on the planet. We are selfish and spoiled because we have the resources here to demand everything fast and super-sized. This is not a genetic or medical condition. This is a cultural choice. We have a lot here, so we take a lot. And we want more every day. And the sooner we recognize that this problem stems from our own lack of will power, the sooner we’ll stop blaming our poor choices on outside influences and start making sensible lifestyle changes. Get over it... and have a salad! |
| #226 Post by Craig Dollar, on Sat Dec 24 2011 5:54 AM |
| You people disgust me. It was people that told me that i looked fat and disgusting and made fun of me that caused me to be riddled with eating disorders. I am now healthier physically and mentally, but i will not forgive society for not having more compassion for a kid who was raised to indulge rather than raised to be responsible for his body. I had to learn that for myself. I lost nearly 100 lbs through anorexia. I then stopped being anorexic when i passed out one day and became exercise-bulimic. I am now recovering from an EDNOS (eating disorder not otherwise specified), and you know where about 70% of this problem came from? People who said i was disgusting, rather than people who aimed to teach me better. Shut the fuck up haters, if you dont have anything better to say. |
| #227 Post by Craig Dollar, on Sat Dec 24 2011 6:4 AM |
| And by the way, people like you stopped your bullshit when i started lifting weights. Wanna come insult someone who once weighed 300lbs? Come make fun of me. I FUCKING DARE YOU. |
| #228 Post by Ka'El, on Sun Jan 15 2012 3:20 AM |
| Wow all the fat haters out there - hey, stop worrying about how you feel about the 250lb person and worry about yourselves. I guess commenting about how disgusting someone's looks are makes you feel better about yourselves in some way? Gives you a feeling of superiority and wellbeing? Ah, well that is natural - clearly when you start to pile on the pounds you'll be full of self loathing and there are plenty of shrinks who'll help you out. Weight is sometimes about choice and sometimes it isn't - if you are lucky enough to have iron willpower or a fast metabolism then that's cool. If you don't then that is cool too. Humans come in all shapes and sizes, and quite frankly if you've had a brush with death or are fighting a chronic disease then how much you weigh, how your hair looks, etc is the last thing on your mind... |
| #229 Post by Bunny, on Fri Jan 20 2012 1:57 PM |
| I feel sorry for all the hateful, and heartless people on here. Your bad karma will soon find you and I doubt you will have anything to say then. I am scared for my kids because of people like you.. because you are teaching/and will teach your kids to be cruel. My kids and I are healthy eaters and are not overweight, but I was raised to have respect, and so will they. We accept and respect people for their hearts, and not what they look like. You were obviously never hugged enough as children because you lack attention, and you will say anything to get it. Bullies are just empty inside so they put vulnerable people down to fill the void. Pathetic. |
| #230 Post by Naeo, on Sat Feb 4 2012 11:29 AM |
| Wow, you all are hilarious. Respect each other, this is no way to treat your fellow man/woman. Try to understand where everyone is coming from, ok? You are entitled to your own opinion and so is everyone else. Yes, obesity is bad for an individuals health; yes, it is often related to poor lifestyle decisions; and yes, others do suffer from diseases that may relate to weight gain. Everyone has a choice to live as they want to live, healthy or not. Its all about happiness people. You only have one life, and only you are in control of it; live it to what you feel is its fullest. Wether it is a healthy or unhealthy lifestyle is completely up to you. And food for thought: would you speak so sharply to these people if you were face to face with them? I know several of you will immediately say yes out of frustration and/or anger, but really think about it. There is always room for self improvement after all. |
